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Kucherov LTIR replacement options

Created by: nickkbowen25
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 18, 2021
Published: Oct. 18, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Tampa Bay Lightning
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Hertl, Tomas
Additional Details:
Very good two way, great sniper who can play the wing and is a lefty. Can fill all of kucherov’s spots.
SJS
    2.
    TBL
    1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
    Additional Details:
    Familiar with the system and can play top 6 minutes. Good scoring winger when on a good line.
    DET
      3.
      TBL
      1. Radulov, Alexander
      Additional Details:
      Good play driving winger towards the end of his career. Would be a rental.
      DAL
        4.
        TBL
        1. Barré-Boulet, Alex
        Additional Details:
        elite shot with great hands. Not good definsivley but could be a good waiver pickup.
        SEA
          5.
          TBL
          1. Volkov, Alexander
          Additional Details:
          Good option who has struggled in Anaheim since leaving the Bolts system. Plays the same style as Kucherov.
          ANA
            6.
            TBL
            1. Neal, James
            Additional Details:
            Could be a waiver option if things don’t work out in St. Louis. Good potential, likely a scratch if kucherov returns.
            STL
              7.
              TBL
              1. Skinner, Jeff
              Additional Details:
              Could be an option if he somehow becomes a UFA mid season.
              BUF
                Buyouts
                • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
                DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
                2022
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                DET
                TBL
                NYR
                2023
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                ANA
                2024
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                TBL
                ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
                29$81,500,000$106,707,621$145,122$0-$25,207,621
                Left WingCenterRight Wing
                TBL
                Killorn, Alex
                $4,450,000
                LW
                NTC
                UFA - 2
                TBL
                Stamkos, Steven
                $8,500,000
                RW, C, LW
                NMC
                UFA - 3
                TBL
                Kucherov, Nikita
                $9,500,000
                RW
                NMC
                UFA - 6
                TBL
                Maroon, Patrick
                $900,000
                LW, RW
                NTC
                UFA - 1
                TBL
                Point, Brayden
                $6,750,000
                C, RW
                UFA - 1
                TBL
                Palat, Ondrej
                $5,300,000
                LW, RW
                NTC
                UFA - 1
                TBL
                Katchouk, Boris
                $758,333
                LW
                RFA - 3
                TBL
                Cirelli, Anthony
                $4,800,000
                C
                RFA - 2
                TBL
                Perry, Corey
                $1,000,000
                RW
                NTC
                UFA - 2
                ANA
                Volkov, Alexander
                $925,000
                LW, RW
                UFA - 1
                TBL
                Colton, Ross
                $1,125,000
                C
                RFA - 2
                TBL
                Raddysh, Taylor
                $758,333
                RW
                RFA - 3
                BUF
                Skinner, Jeff
                $9,000,000
                LW, RW
                NMC
                UFA - 6
                TBL
                Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
                $1,000,000
                C, LW
                UFA - 2
                DET
                Namestnikov, Vladislav
                $2,000,000
                RW, LW, C
                UFA - 1
                TBL
                Joseph, Mathieu
                $737,500
                C, LW, RW
                RFA - 1
                DAL
                Radulov, Alexander
                $6,250,000
                RW
                NMC NTC
                UFA - 1
                SJS
                Hertl, Tomas
                $5,625,000
                C, RW
                NTC
                UFA - 1
                STL
                Neal, James
                $750,000
                RW, LW
                UFA - 1
                SEA
                Barré-Boulet, Alex
                $758,333
                LW, RW
                UFA - 3
                Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                TBL
                Hedman, Victor
                $7,875,000
                LD
                NMC
                UFA - 4
                TBL
                Cernak, Erik
                $2,950,000
                RD
                RFA - 2
                TBL
                Vasilevskiy, Andrei
                $9,500,000
                G
                NMC
                UFA - 7
                TBL
                McDonagh, Ryan
                $6,750,000
                LD
                NTC
                UFA - 5
                TBL
                Rutta, Jan
                $1,300,000
                RD
                UFA - 1
                TBL
                Elliott, Brian
                $900,000
                G
                UFA - 1
                TBL
                Sergachev, Mikhail
                $4,800,000
                LD/RD
                RFA - 2
                TBL
                Foote, Cal
                $850,000
                RD
                RFA - 2
                TBL
                Sustr, Andrej
                $750,000
                RD
                UFA - 1
                ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                TBL
                Seabrook, Brent
                $6,875,000
                RD
                NMC
                UFA - 3
                TBL
                Bogosian, Zach
                $850,000
                RD
                NTC
                UFA - 3

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                Oct. 18 at 1:20 p.m.
                #1
                Future GM
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                Radulov and tampa = elite
                Oct. 18 at 1:20 p.m.
                #2
                GOAT Uniform
                Joined: Mar. 2018
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                For Radulov, a prospect in the Jack Finley/Jack Thompson tier & a 2nd Round Pick with some kind of condition that if he scores X amount of points that it becomes a 1st
                Oct. 18 at 2:18 p.m.
                #3
                Joined: Aug. 2020
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                They’re gonna pull the same thing they did last year and trade some picks for Tarasenko
                Oct. 18 at 2:33 p.m.
                #4
                Quaaludes
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                Since TBL does not have strong picks Sharks will require some top notch prospects which you also don't really have. Gonna have to pass.

                I would consider Cirelli and a couple 1st's.
                Oct. 18 at 2:44 p.m.
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                Quoting: gary_bettman
                Since TBL does not have strong picks Sharks will require some top notch prospects which you also don't really have. Gonna have to pass.

                I would consider Cirelli and a couple 1st's.


                HAHAHA Cirelli >>>> than Hertl alone, and couple 1st's.

                Sharks will do good to get a prospect and a 2nd for Hertl, maybe closer to the deadline you could get 1 1st rounder.
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                Oct. 18 at 2:48 p.m.
                #6
                Quaaludes
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                Quoting: NDoody
                HAHAHA Cirelli >>>> than Hertl alone, and couple 1st's.

                Sharks will do good to get a prospect and a 2nd for Hertl, maybe closer to the deadline you could get 1 1st rounder.


                omg if you think Cirelli is better than Hertl then you need to re-think your knowledge...WOW

                someone needs some schooling jeez
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                Oct. 18 at 3:02 p.m.
                #7
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                Posts: 398
                Likes: 179
                Quoting: gary_bettman
                omg if you think Cirelli is better than Hertl then you need to re-think your knowledge...WOW

                someone needs some schooling jeez


                Outside of his one season with 35 goals, their Offensive numbers are similar in the regular season, and they are both similarly skilled on the D side of the puck,
                However, Cirelli has more playoff experience, a higher Faceoff percentage, and is 3 years younger with another year left at 4.8, Hertl is a rental most likely and you would have to deal with him as a UFA this offseason which will likely push above his current 5.6.
                So Cirelli alone is too high an ask for Hertl, which would have high Team and Trade Value than Hertl.
                Oct. 18 at 3:02 p.m.
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                Quoting: NDoody
                HAHAHA Cirelli >>>> than Hertl alone, and couple 1st's.

                Sharks will do good to get a prospect and a 2nd for Hertl, maybe closer to the deadline you could get 1 1st rounder.


                Absolutely laughable take. Cirelli is very good and underrated, but nowhere near as good as Hertl overall. And a prospect + 2nd is a joke of a return too lmfao.
                Oct. 18 at 3:06 p.m.
                #9
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                Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
                Absolutely laughable take. Cirelli is very good and underrated, but nowhere near as good as Hertl overall. And a prospect + 2nd is a joke of a return too lmfao.


                It's all about the money, you are trading for a rental at best, and then what is his Cap high going to be after you have to negotiate for him. With the flat cap and the contract he most liley will get this summer, it hurts his Trade value a lot.

                Cirelli has another year left and lower Cap hit after that and 3 years younger. Much more cost certainly
                Oct. 18 at 3:13 p.m.
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                Quoting: NDoody
                It's all about the money, you are trading for a rental at best, and then what is his Cap high going to be after you have to negotiate for him. With the flat cap and the contract he most liley will get this summer, it hurts his Trade value a lot.

                Cirelli has another year left and lower Cap hit after that and 3 years younger. Much more cost certainly


                this doesn’t make sense for either club, your woefully undervaluing Hertl and his deal would just hurt your long term. we would have to retain 50% meaning you would have to pay a 1st, 2 2nds and a top prospect for what in essence is a rental
                Oct. 18 at 3:17 p.m.
                #11
                Quaaludes
                Joined: Sep. 2021
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                Quoting: NDoody
                It's all about the money, you are trading for a rental at best, and then what is his Cap high going to be after you have to negotiate for him. With the flat cap and the contract he most liley will get this summer, it hurts his Trade value a lot.

                Cirelli has another year left and lower Cap hit after that and 3 years younger. Much more cost certainly


                Hertl is 3x the player in every facet of the game.
                Oct. 18 at 7:22 p.m.
                #12
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                Tampa laughs and hangs up at Cirelli+2 1sts for Hertl. Hertl is a better player for now, but Tampa would never give up that package. Cirelli and at most 1 1st or a 2nd that could become a 1st maybe.
                Oct. 18 at 7:46 p.m.
                #13
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                Best case would be maybe Cirelli, a 1st and a 3rd for Hertl with retention, if Tampa wanted to go with Hertl over Cirelli moving ahead and if an extension with Hertl was already essentially agreed to. Tampa would never make the trade without an extension basically a done deal.
                 
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