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Putting on the Foil

Created by: Eli
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 18, 2021
Published: Oct. 18, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Toronto is not actually getting Tom Wilson. I'm just messing around.
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Wilson, Tom
  2. Hagelin, Carl
  3. Schultz, Justin
WSH
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. Nylander, William
  4. Ritchie, Nick
  5. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Marchand, Brad
  2. Grzelcyk, Matt
BOS
  1. Marner, Mitchell
3.
TOR
  1. Kadri, Nazem ($2,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
retention by Detroit, with Colorado sending Detroit their 2023 5th round pick. Contract is front loaded, so that's only $1M of actual cash in question, Wings fans.
COL
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,607,749$0$400,000$892,251
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WSH
Hagelin, Carl
$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
WSH
Wilson, Tom
$5,166,666
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
BOS
Marchand, Brad
$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
COL
Kadri, Nazem
$2,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Amadio, Michael
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
WSH
Schultz, Justin
$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Oct. 18 at 9:54 p.m.
#51
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Quoting: DogDayCaps2


Ran from Wilson


Where’s the cheap shot? Where’s the running? Where’s the not answering the bell?
Oct. 18 at 9:57 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Where’s the cheap shot? Where’s the running? Where’s the not answering the bell?


Lmfao did you watch the clip. He pushes Kempny’s head Wilson skates at him and he jumps backwards like a coward. Quite literally hits the deck. I mean I wouldn’t fight Wilson but that’s the same rat that jump Eller when he wasn’t watching
Oct. 18 at 10:04 p.m.
#53
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Quoting: DogDayCaps2
Lmfao did you watch the clip. He pushes Kempny’s head Wilson skates at him and he jumps backwards like a coward. Quite literally hits the deck. I mean I wouldn’t fight Wilson but that’s the same rat that jump Eller when he wasn’t watching


Were calling that love tap something that warrants answering the bell?
Oct. 18 at 10:10 p.m.
#54
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Were calling that love tap something that warrants answering the bell?


The bell rang he didn’t answer…Regardless of what its for he saw Wilson coming and cowarded. He was terrified It was hilarious/ embarrassing. He’s a little rat. Great hockey player but lacks all toughness. He’s a little coward that will take shots and picks his spots. Guy is soft AF
Oct. 18 at 10:12 p.m.
#55
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Quoting: DogDayCaps2
The bell rang he didn’t answer…Regardless of what its for he saw Wilson coming and cowarded. He was terrified It was hilarious/ embarrassing. He’s a little rat. Great hockey player but lacks all toughness. He’s a little coward that will take shots and picks his spots. Guy is soft AF


There’s a real difference between doing something dirty that dictates a player should answer the bell, and shoving a guy and having Tom freaking Wilson, the dirtiest player in the league charge after you as a 100 point player on the powerplay.
Oct. 18 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
There’s a real difference between doing something dirty that dictates a player should answer the bell, and shoving a guy and having Tom freaking Wilson, the dirtiest player in the league charge after you as a 100 point player on the powerplay.


You just wanted an example of your boy being a coward. I gave you one. There’s maybe 10 players that don’t do the same thing but Marchand could not have been more of a …… there. Is he still there dirtiest player in the league… ? Thought that might have gone away by now
Oct. 18 at 10:18 p.m.
#57
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Quoting: DogDayCaps2
You just wanted an example of your boy being a coward. I gave you one. There’s maybe 10 players that don’t do the same thing but Marchand could not have been more of a …… there. Is he still there dirtiest player in the league… ? Thought that might have gone away by now


That’s not what I wanted. Go through and read the conversation
Oct. 18 at 10:24 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
That’s not what I wanted. Go through and read the conversation


Players like Marchand are rare. He’s a rat but he offers Chippy 4th liner dirty plays while also being an elite winger. Idk why you are dead set on him being tough or not answering the bell. Even Wilson was advised to not fight as much this year. Who cares… he’sa great player that’s also a coward. Wilson is a great player that’s dirty. Crosby is a great player that wines. MAtthews is a great player that never shows up when it matters. All great players that have annoying flaws.
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Oct. 18 at 10:25 p.m.
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Quoting: DogDayCaps2
Players like Marchand are rare. He’s a rat but he offers Chippy 4th liner dirty plays while also being an elite winger. Idk why you are dead set on him being tough or not answering the bell. Even Wilson was advised to not fight as much this year. Who cares… he’sa great player that’s also a coward. Wilson is a great poster that’s dirty. Crosby is a great player that wines. MAtthews is a great player that never shows up when it matters. All great players that have annoying flaws.


The point was brought up that he’ll throw dirty hits and then not answer the bell when challenged. I object to false realities
Oct. 18 at 10:28 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
The point was brought up that he’ll throw dirty hits and then not answer the bell when challenged. I object to false realities


That’s true but why should he have to? Marchand is 510? He’s not the guy that should answer the bell vs heavy weights. I’m sure the evidence supports both sides of this. Coward or not I’d love to have him on my team.
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Oct. 18 at 10:38 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Bahahahahahhahahahhaa. That’s what you’re mad about? Sheeeeeeesh this might not be the sport for you. Too bad the nets moved


Who said I’m mad?
Those are routine for Marchand
(And both worse than the Wilson hit on Carlo)
Oct. 18 at 10:48 p.m.
#62
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Who said I’m mad?
Those are routine for Marchand
(And both worse than the Wilson hit on Carlo)


Quoting: NHLfan10506
Who said I’m mad?
Those are routine for Marchand
(And both worse than the Wilson hit on Carlo)


Both of those are literally nothing. That’s why marchand didn’t get a call from dops for either
Oct. 18 at 10:49 p.m.
#63
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Quoting: Eli
I think Bratt stepped up to defend Kulikov. Not sure I see Marchand jumping Bratt.

Hitting the other team's up and coming superstar in the face is a dumb tradition, but I think within the NHL it's traditional for everyone else on the Devils to swarm Marchand after a dumb cheap shot on a star like that, not just to wait and see whether he wants one of them to punch him. Do the Devils watch a lot of hockey?


He was saying Marchand isn’t dirty any more and that he answers his own bell. I pulled up the two most recent games vs New Jersey.

The Hughes high stick was a cross check to the face. If you had watched that game, Marchand was shadowing Hughes the whole game doing his thing. After one of these shots, he got up and sprinted to the bench and NJD didn’t get the chance to respond. He had to come off the bench to serve his penalty.

On the Bratt thing, Kulikov went down, so couldn’t immediately respond. Marchand dropped the gloves on Bratt so he didn’t have to fight Kulikov. (Bratt is a smaller winger, pretty much the opposite of a goon).

Marchand is dirty. He does not answer the bell. That is my point.
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Oct. 18 at 10:53 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Both of those are literally nothing. That’s why marchand didn’t get a call from dops for either


Lol. Been drinking the Jack Edwards koolaid a bit too much.
Oct. 18 at 11:17 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Lol. Been drinking the Jack Edwards koolaid a bit too much.


No I hate jack edwards. I actually don’t have NESN anymore so I only have to hear him if I’m at a friends house.

Those are plays that happen thousands of times during an nhl season. They’re nothing. If you’re riled up about that, I think you should start watching more objectively. Ohhhh no someone got bumped on the chin with a stick. It’s hockey dude
Oct. 18 at 11:23 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
No I hate jack edwards. I actually don’t have NESN anymore so I only have to hear him if I’m at a friends house.

Those are plays that happen thousands of times during an nhl season. They’re nothing. If you’re riled up about that, I think you should start watching more objectively. Ohhhh no someone got bumped on the chin with a stick. It’s hockey dude


Kulikov was in vulnerable position and Marchand left his feet. If one views the Wilson hit on Carlo as punishable, this one ought to be as well.

The Hughes cross check to the face was a penalty. If one views the Buchnevich cross check on Mantha as punishable, this one ought to be as well.

And who says I’m riled up. I don’t really care.
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Oct. 18 at 11:34 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Kulikov was in vulnerable position and Marchand left his feet. If one views the Wilson hit on Carlo as punishable, this one ought to be as well.

The Hughes cross check to the face was a penalty. If one views the Buchnevich cross check on Mantha as punishable, this one ought to be as well.

And who says I’m riled up. I don’t really care.


Cross check? What cross check?
Oct. 19 at 10:44 a.m.
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So, we've got three pages of comments, and it looks like the only objections on the trade values are from Boston and Detroit. smile
Oct. 19 at 11:11 a.m.
#69
In Don we trust
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Cross check? What cross check?


Marchand has the 4th most points in the last 5 seasons, go look up the company he’s with on that list…. Lots of fighters and “bell answerers” on that list 😂. You guys are so goofy, the guy plays with an edge and does mix it up a bit but that’s his job ffs, does he step over the line sometimes… yes lol. 4TH MOST POINTS BEHIND MCDAVID, LEON and MCKINNON and your wondering why he doesn’t fight Tom Wilson who’s probably 80lbs and 8 inches bigger? Give your head a shake lol, and that huges stick to the face 😂😂😂 guy jumps away and he reaches out and gets him, it’s a god damn hockey play give it up.
Oct. 19 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Bias4bruins
Marchand has the 4th most points in the last 5 seasons, go look up the company he’s with on that list…. Lots of fighters and “bell answerers” on that list 😂. You guys are so goofy, the guy plays with an edge and does mix it up a bit but that’s his job ffs, does he step over the line sometimes… yes lol. 4TH MOST POINTS BEHIND MCDAVID, LEON and MCKINNON and your wondering why he doesn’t fight Tom Wilson who’s probably 80lbs and 8 inches bigger? Give your head a shake lol, and that huges stick to the face 😂😂😂 guy jumps away and he reaches out and gets him, it’s a god damn hockey play give it up.


Did you mean to quote someone else?
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Oct. 19 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Did you mean to quote someone else?


Yea sorry meant for the guys above your last post lol
 
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