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Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 19, 2021
Published: Oct. 19, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Zibanejad, Mika
1$5,350,000
Kreider, Chris
5$5,500,000
Trouba, Jacob
3$6,500,000
Goodrow, Barclay
3$2,500,000
Buchnevich, Pavel
6$4,850,000
Trades
1.
NYR
    not signed or signed for different contracts
    ANA
    1. Goodrow, Barclay
    2. Nemeth, Patrik
    3. Tinordi, Jarred
    Additional Details:
    Goodrow for 2500000x3
    Nemeth not signed
    tinordi Not signed
    2.
    NYR
    1. Buchnevich, Pavel
    Additional Details:
    Never happened
    STL
    1. Blais, Samuel
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (STL)
    3.
    NYR
    STL
    1. Trouba, Jacob
    Additional Details:
    Never Signed to crazy contract
    Trouba 6500000x5 Modified NTC back in 2019
    4.
    NYR
    STL
    1. Kreider, Chris
    Additional Details:
    Never signs this deal
    Kreider 5500000x5 With Modified NTC as well as Front Heavy
    5.
    NYR
    STL
    1. Zibanejad, Mika
    Additional Details:
    Doesnt sign crazy overpay
    Zibanejad Extension 8000000x7 front heavy
    6.
    NYR
    STL
    1. Georgiev, Alexandar
    Additional Details:
    Traded when value was highest (Had offers for multiple 2nds or even late 1sts)
    7.
    NYR
    1. Eichel, Jack
    Additional Details:
    Kravstov, Strome, Robertson, 2021 1st, 2022 1st for Jack eichel
    BUF
    1. Kravtsov, Vitali
    2. Othmann, Brennan
    3. Robertson, Matthew
    4. Strome, Ryan
    5. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
    Additional Details:
    Never made 2021 Selection and instead traded pick at draft for eichel. Also before Kravtsov situation when his value was at a highly touted prospect or1st round value.
    8.
    NYR
    BUF
    1. Buchnevich, Pavel
    Additional Details:
    Takes small paycut to stay a ranger
    Buchnevich 4.85x6
    9.
    NYR
      BIGGEST THING!!!! COVID DOESN'T HAPPEN AND CAP GOES UP SO IT WOULD BE AT THE PROPER 87 MIL FOR 21-22 AND 89.5 MIL AT 22-23
      BUF
      Buyouts
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      2022
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$87,000,000$73,948,927$0$8,400,000$13,051,073
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      Zibanejad, Mika
      $5,350,000$5,350,000
      Buchnevich, Pavel
      $4,850,000$4,850,000
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      $11,642,857$11,642,857
      LW
      NMC
      UFA - 5
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      $10,000,000$10,000,000
      C
      UFA - 5
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      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
      RW
      RFA - 1
      Kreider, Chris
      $5,500,000$5,500,000
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      $2,300,000$2,300,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 2
      Goodrow, Barclay
      $2,500,000$2,500,000
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $775,000$775,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
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      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
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      $1,750,000$1,750,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
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      $762,500$762,500
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
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      $750,000$750,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      LD
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $5,666,667$5,666,667
      G
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
      LD
      RFA - 2
      Trouba, Jacob
      $6,500,000$6,500,000
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $825,000$825,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      RD
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $925,000$925,000
      LD
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $874,125$874,125
      LD
      UFA - 1

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      Oct. 19, 2021 at 11:09 a.m.
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      Goodrow isn't wearing a rangers sweater with that offer
      Oct. 19, 2021 at 11:21 a.m.
      #2
      Who adds what?
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      Undoing the Buchnevich trade, and a few cap hits, but not the Trouba trade?
      Oct. 19, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.
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      As a Leaf fan, a resounding yes to this "BIGGEST THING!!!! COVID DOESN'T HAPPEN AND CAP GOES UP SO IT WOULD BE AT THE PROPER 87 MIL FOR 21-22 AND 89.5 MIL AT 22-23"
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      Oct. 19, 2021 at 11:51 a.m.
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      Realistically, the biggest thing the Rangers shouldn't have done is signed Kreider. I like him, he's a good player, but he's not an elite player, and when players like Kaapo and Lafreniere are coming into their prime he's going to be exiting his. Buchnevich's fate was pretty much sealed when they signed Kreider, cap space wise, even if they never won that draft lottery they wouldn't have had the cap space to keep both. By trading Kreider at the deadline when his last contract was up, they could have gotten an extra pick and prospect along with a first. Tons of Blues fans were pushing for Kyrou and a 1st for Kreider (a very funny proposal in hindsight). The Blues are (usually) smarter than blues fans but can you imagine Kyrou AND Buchnevich on this Rangers team?

      Trouba was overpayed on day one and they fell into the classic "well we just traded for you so now we'd better give you all the money in the world" trap, but I think he's a lot better than people give him credit for and it's mostly fair to give them a mulligan not knowing that Fox and possibly Lundvist would pan out like they would.

      The Georgiev thing was always weird, he clearly has starter aspirations and clearly is never going to get that opportunity in New York, they should have traded him at his highest value a few years back when the Leafs were desperate for a backup goalie and were willing to pay top dollar. Then they could have not bought out Hank like cowards.

      And yeah, the Rangers should have chosen Eichel over Zib, for similar reasons to Buchnevich over Kreider- Eichel is the better player and he fits their window a lot clearer than Zibanejad. Elite players tend to age okay, which is why signing Panarin was obviously a good move and why the Zib thing will probably be fine but if it's between the two, no matter how you feel on Zib, Eichel is the better bet, even with his health in question.
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      Oct. 20, 2021 at 9:38 a.m.
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      i dunno
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      yeah wouldnt it have been nice if we signed everyone as cheaply as possible, never signed any bad contracts, made all the right trades at the right times, covid didnt happen, our players maybe played a bit better, maybe some bounces went in our favour, maybe some players on other teams werent as good, and hey maybe itd be nice if we won every draft lottery, and if we had a time machine so we knew everything about every player so we drafted the right player everytime, and traded at perfect times all the time. hey maybe itd be nice if we also won every presidents trophy, and swept in every playoff round, and won every single individual trophy too!! isnt it wonderful when you can create your own universe with 20/20 hindsight..
      Oct. 20, 2021 at 9:39 a.m.
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      i dunno
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      Edited Oct. 20, 2021 at 9:46 a.m.
      Quoting: TheEarthmaster
      Realistically, the biggest thing the Rangers shouldn't have done is signed Kreider. I like him, he's a good player, but he's not an elite player, and when players like Kaapo and Lafreniere are coming into their prime he's going to be exiting his. Buchnevich's fate was pretty much sealed when they signed Kreider, cap space wise, even if they never won that draft lottery they wouldn't have had the cap space to keep both. By trading Kreider at the deadline when his last contract was up, they could have gotten an extra pick and prospect along with a first. Tons of Blues fans were pushing for Kyrou and a 1st for Kreider (a very funny proposal in hindsight). The Blues are (usually) smarter than blues fans but can you imagine Kyrou AND Buchnevich on this Rangers team?

      Trouba was overpayed on day one and they fell into the classic "well we just traded for you so now we'd better give you all the money in the world" trap, but I think he's a lot better than people give him credit for and it's mostly fair to give them a mulligan not knowing that Fox and possibly Lundvist would pan out like they would.

      The Georgiev thing was always weird, he clearly has starter aspirations and clearly is never going to get that opportunity in New York, they should have traded him at his highest value a few years back when the Leafs were desperate for a backup goalie and were willing to pay top dollar. Then they could have not bought out Hank like cowards.

      And yeah, the Rangers should have chosen Eichel over Zib, for similar reasons to Buchnevich over Kreider- Eichel is the better player and he fits their window a lot clearer than Zibanejad. Elite players tend to age okay, which is why signing Panarin was obviously a good move and why the Zib thing will probably be fine but if it's between the two, no matter how you feel on Zib, Eichel is the better bet, even with his health in question.


      so our biggest mistake was signing kreider? thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard..

      also we could never afford eichel on that cap hit. his 10m, panarin at 11.6, fox inevitably at 9+, kakko and lafreniere with big deals eventually. eichel may be the better player 1 on 1, but zibanejad fits our team, even with the 8.5m cap hit a lot better. hes also not that much worse than eichel. yes eichel is younger, but we know zibanejad can score at a 50+ goal pace (even 60 in 2019-20), and is pretty good at passing too, and on top of that his defensive game looks a lot better now than in the last few years, so he's not far off eichel. its not like we'd be giving up zibanejad for eichel 1 on 1, the price, not only the cap hit, would be enormous, and not worth it.
      Oct. 20, 2021 at 9:40 a.m.
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      yeah wouldnt it have been nice if we signed everyone as cheaply as possible, never signed any bad contracts, made all the right trades at the right times, covid didnt happen, our players maybe played a bit better, maybe some bounces went in our favour, maybe some players on other teams werent as good, and hey maybe itd be nice if we won every draft lottery, and if we had a time machine so we knew everything about every player so we drafted the right player everytime, and traded at perfect times all the time. hey maybe itd be nice if we also won every presidents trophy, and swept in every playoff round, and won every single individual trophy too!! isnt it wonderful when you can create your own universe with 20/20 hindsight..


      lol no need to get tight over a post. this is my perfect scenario with hindsight so yes
      Oct. 20, 2021 at 9:49 a.m.
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      i dunno
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      Quoting: RussianRangers9
      lol no need to get tight over a post. this is my perfect scenario with hindsight so yes


      well im not getting tight im just making fun of you for a really unnecessary, and pretty dumb post.
      Oct. 20, 2021 at 10:02 a.m.
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      well im not getting tight im just making fun of you for a really unnecessary, and pretty dumb post.


      seem kinda tight to me
      Oct. 20, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.
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      Edited Oct. 20, 2021 at 1:23 p.m.
      Quoting: tea
      so our biggest mistake was signing kreider? thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard..

      also we could never afford eichel on that cap hit. his 10m, panarin at 11.6, fox inevitably at 9+, kakko and lafreniere with big deals eventually. eichel may be the better player 1 on 1, but zibanejad fits our team, even with the 8.5m cap hit a lot better. hes also not that much worse than eichel. yes eichel is younger, but we know zibanejad can score at a 50+ goal pace (even 60 in 2019-20), and is pretty good at passing too, and on top of that his defensive game looks a lot better now than in the last few years, so he's not far off eichel. its not like we'd be giving up zibanejad for eichel 1 on 1, the price, not only the cap hit, would be enormous, and not worth it.



      Your argument for Zib over Eichel mostly hinges on not being able to find 1.5 million dollars in the budget. Weird, I wonder what the difference between Buchnevich's salary and the salary of Kredier+Blais is. Wow, seems like enough for Jack Eichel + a league min player...glad that wasn't a mistake though!

      I get that you'd be giving up assets for Eichel and that's a fair point but like you also realistically have to look at what the Rangers have. Had they sold Kreider at the deadline they would have more assets now, for one. Strome would be expendable. They have several NHL level defensive prospects that will never crack this roster. Kravtsov wants out. They can't afford to keep Georgiev. That's plenty of good stuff to get to Eichel. The Sabres are running out Robert Hagg, Cody Eakin, and Craig Anderson on the regular. They could benefit from all of those young pieces.

      I'm not saying the Rangers are screwed or anything but if we're litigating the rebuild, those are the things that I think it's fair to say they should have done differently. I do think not selling Kreider and then being forced to sell Buchnevich was their biggest mistake but if that's your biggest mistake your rebuild is probably doing pretty well.
       
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