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TDL Hawks to continue rebuild

Created by: ChiHawk
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 19, 2021
Published: Oct. 19, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks
Team Explanation
That Jones contract is going to hurt in the future but let's play it out for a year or two and reevaluate then.
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Holloway, Dylan
  2. Kassian, Zack
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Oilers time is now to make a run. Toews brings leadership to the team, one of the best captains in the league. Also allows for more flexibility with LD to move up the lineup to play alongside CM or Toews anchors the 3rd line. De Haan replaces Koekko on the 3rd line. Kassian is a cap dump to the Hawks.
EDM
  1. Toews, Jonathan ($4,500,000 retained)
  2. De Haan, Calvin ($2,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Obviously Toews probably doesn't waive and Chicago probably won't trade their captain. Nonetheless, seeing Toews waste his final years with such a bad team and the friction between the coach and he in the past, makes you wonder.
2.
CHI
  1. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Fleury, Marc-André ($3,500,000 retained)
  2. Carpenter, Ryan
Additional Details:
Fleury is obvious to make a run at the cup, Carps bring solid defense and PK ability to the 4th line.
3.
CHI
    ANA
    1. Johnson, Tyler
    2. Kalynuk, Wyatt
    3. Nylander, Alexander
    Additional Details:
    Cost to move Johnson; even add a 3rd round pick if necessary.
    Buyouts
    • Jujhar Khaira: $350,000
    • Zack Kassian: $1,622,222
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Jonathan Toews: $4,500,000 (42.86%)
    • Calvin De Haan: $2,250,000 (49.45%)
    • Marc-André Fleury: $3,500,000 (50%)
    • Olli Määttä: $750,108 (18%)
    Buried
    • Brett Connolly: $2,375,000 ($3,500,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
    TOR
    CHI
    EDM
    EDM
    TOR
    VGK
    CHI
    CHI
    CBJ
    CHI
    2023
    CHI
    CHI
    TBL
    CHI
    EDM
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    2024
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$67,213,936$452,439$4,122,500$14,286,064
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    CHI
    DeBrincat, Alex
    $6,400,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    CHI
    Dach, Kirby
    $925,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Kane, Patrick
    $10,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Reichel, Lukas
    $925,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Strome, Dylan
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Kubalik, Dominik
    $3,700,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Hagel, Brandon
    $1,500,000
    LW
    RFA - 3
    EDM
    Holloway, Dylan
    $925,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Kurashev, Philipp
    $842,500
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Hardman, Mike
    $912,500
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Entwistle, Mackenzie
    $811,667
    C
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Gaudette, Adam
    $997,500
    C
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Borgström, Henrik
    $1,000,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    CHI
    McCabe, Jake
    $4,000,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    CHI
    Jones, Seth
    $5,400,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Lankinen, Kevin
    $800,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Jones, Caleb
    $850,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Murphy, Connor
    $3,850,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Delia, Collin
    $1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Stillman, Riley
    $1,350,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Gustafsson, Erik
    $800,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Mitchell, Ian
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    CHI
    Shaw, Andrew
    $3,900,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1

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    Oct. 19, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
    #1
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    I’d be much much more interested in fleury for oilers that is depending on how kosk is performing which we are yet to see.
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    Oct. 19, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.
    #2
    Pettiest of dorks
    Joined: Oct. 2017
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    Edmonton has about a third to half of the cap space necessary to facilitate that trade.

    Personally, I'm completely disinterested in Holloway to the Hawks.
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    Oct. 19, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.
    #3
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    Where is TOR getting the cap room? They can't even actually afford to have a backup.
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.
    #4
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    Edited Oct. 19, 2021 at 2:43 p.m.
    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    Where is TOR getting the cap room? They can't even actually afford to have a backup.


    Chicago can take back some cap or they can make an additive move. Hawks would probably love to have Reilly given that he's going to free agency but would imagine he's more important then an upgrade in goal for Toronto.
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 2:52 p.m.
    #5
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    Can't retain on 4 guys, but I know you know that anyways so idk why I even mentioned it.

    I would also add that I think IF Toews gets traded so does Kane. Neighter will be traded, i'm justing saying if one domino falls so does the other
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 3:00 p.m.
    #6
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    Quoting: Wadejos123
    Can't retain on 4 guys, but I know you know that anyways so idk why I even mentioned it.

    I would also add that I think IF Toews gets traded so does Kane. Neighter will be traded, i'm justing saying if one domino falls so does the other


    Not so sure about both getting traded. Kane is very tied to Chicago and the organization behind the scenes including saying at one point he wants to work for the Blackhawks longterm. Toews on the other hand spends his offseason back home plus last season on injured reserve, has had some conflict with the coach and organizational direction, etc. I don't think the Hawks would ever trade kane, but Toews I could see and think it's 50/50 whether Toews will agree.
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 3:16 p.m.
    #7
    Hakuna Matata
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    Why MAF to Toronto though wouldn't Edmonton make more sense Huh?
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    Oct. 19, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.
    #8
    Campbell for Vezina
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    wait why do the leafs need a starter a starter and a starter?
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
    #9
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    Why MAF to Toronto though wouldn't Edmonton make more sense Huh?


    I think they both make sense, but Kos may surprise Edmonton
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
    #10
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    Quoting: odyssey
    wait why do the leafs need a starter a starter and a starter?


    Because arguably none of the current ones are starters
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
    #11
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Because arguably none of the current ones are starters


    He says as Campbell has one of the best starts in the league.
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 4:26 p.m.
    #12
    Campbell for Vezina
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Because arguably none of the current ones are starters


    soup is. mrazek is when healthy. they aren't rasks or prices but receptible 1 A 1B goalies. they dont need Fleury, they can allocate that money to another RHD or LW they dont need a goalie
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 5:13 p.m.
    #13
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    Quoting: Byrr
    He says as Campbell has one of the best starts in the league.

    Quoting: odyssey
    soup is. mrazek is when healthy. they aren't rasks or prices but receptible 1 A 1B goalies. they dont need Fleury, they can allocate that money to another RHD or LW they dont need a goalie


    Campbell is 4 games into a 82 game season and obviously has injury risk. I love the guy personally, one of the best guys in the league in terms of personality, but injury risk is real with him and he's never proven as a guy that can take on the bulk of season. Mrazek is not a 1A goalie. Although he had a nice 12 games last year, he's spent the last 3 sitting behind one of the league's better defensive teams; Toronto is not one of those teams.

    I won't argue that Toronto could use a top 6 LW more or a RHD maybe even more, but a goalie that is going to get them through the playoffs and be able to win a cup is right up there as well.
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.
    #14
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Campbell is 4 games into a 82 game season and obviously has injury risk. I love the guy personally, one of the best guys in the league in terms of personality, but injury risk is real with him and he's never proven as a guy that can take on the bulk of season. Mrazek is not a 1A goalie. Although he had a nice 12 games last year, he's spent the last 3 sitting behind one of the league's better defensive teams; Toronto is not one of those teams.

    I won't argue that Toronto could use a top 6 LW more or a RHD maybe even more, but a goalie that is going to get them through the playoffs and be able to win a cup is right up there as well.


    The point is that after last season people would say 'but can he sustain it' and so far he is. You are just continuing to second guess him when so far there is no reason to.
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.
    #15
    Campbell for Vezina
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    Campbell is 4 games into a 82 game season and obviously has injury risk. I love the guy personally, one of the best guys in the league in terms of personality, but injury risk is real with him and he's never proven as a guy that can take on the bulk of season. Mrazek is not a 1A goalie. Although he had a nice 12 games last year, he's spent the last 3 sitting behind one of the league's better defensive teams; Toronto is not one of those teams.

    I won't argue that Toronto could use a top 6 LW more or a RHD maybe even more, but a goalie that is going to get them through the playoffs and be able to win a cup is right up there as well.


    if they were to get a goalie it would be like what they did with rittich, fleury is too much and they risk losing someone on waivers because of it
    Oct. 19, 2021 at 7:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: Byrr
    The point is that after last season people would say 'but can he sustain it' and so far he is. You are just continuing to second guess him when so far there is no reason to.


    And the point is it's only 4 games and that proves nothing especially considering his career, one that has had him only playing 30+ games once and that was 4 seasons ago
     
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