If Rangers had used autopick instead of letting Gorton draft

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Created by: NHLfan10506

Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 21, 2021

Published: Oct. 21, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Jeff Gorton was general manager of the Rangers from July 2015 until May 2021. During his tenure, he made forty draft selections (7th most in NHL) including eight first round picks (1st in NHL). Only Detroit amassed higher overall cumulative draft value during this period.

If they had used the the public consensus rankings instead of their own, this would have been the result.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Wallstedt, Jesper	3	$925,000
McLaughlin, Blake	3	$925,000
Nikolayev, Ilya	3	$925,000
Robertsson, Simon	3	$925,000
Salminen, Samu	3	$925,000
Duke, Dylan	3	$925,000
Nybeck, Zion	3	$925,000
Roulette, Conner	3	$925,000
Ufko, Ryan	3	$925,000
Guskov, Matvei	3	$925,000
Pashin, Alexander	3	$925,000
Gallagher, Ty	3	$925,000
Robidas, Justin	3	$925,000

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Lakatos, Dominik	1	$800,000
Sjalin, Calle	1	$800,000
Virta, Patrik	1	$800,000
Gross, Nico	1	$800,000
Sokolov, Dmitry	1	$800,000
Fontaine, Gabriel	1	$800,000
Quenneville, David	1	$800,000
Fortier, Maxime	1	$800,000
Crawley, Brandon	1	$800,000
Koltygin, Pavel	1	$800,000
Chekhovich, Ivan	1	$800,000
McShane, Allan	1	$800,000
Bouchard, Xavier	1	$800,000

Trades

NYR

Mete, Victor

OTT

Day, Sean

Additional Details:

2016 pick 81

NYR

Gregor, Noah

SJS

Reunanen, Tarmo

Additional Details:

2016 pick 98

NYR

Sokolov, Dmitry

MIN

Gettinger, Tim

Additional Details:

2016 pick 141

NYR

Quenneville, David

NYI

Fontaine, Gabriel

Additional Details:

2016 pick 171

NYR

Fortier, Maxime

NYI

Wall, Tyler

Additional Details:

2016 pick 174

NYR

Gleason, Benjamin

DAL

Ronning, Ty

Additional Details:

2016 pick 201

NYR

Vilardi, Gabriel

LAK

Andersson, Lias

Additional Details:

2017 pick 7

NYR

Tolvanen, Eeli

NSH

Chytil, Filip

Additional Details:

2017 pick 21

NYR

Elvenes, Lucas

VGK

Crawley, Brandon

Additional Details:

2017 pick 123

10.

NYR

Chmelevski, Alexander

SJS

Sjalin, Calle

Additional Details:

2017 pick 145

11.

NYR

Primeau, Cayden

MTL

Lakatos, Dominik

Additional Details:

2017 pick 157

12.

NYR

Koltygin, Pavel

NSH

Barron, Morgan

Additional Details:

2017 pick 174

13.

NYR

Chekhovich, Ivan

SJS

Virta, Patrik

Additional Details:

2017 pick 207

14.

NYR

Wahlstrom, Oliver

NYI

Kravtsov, Vitali

Additional Details:

2018 pick 9

15.

NYR

Veleno, Joseph

DET

Miller, K'Andre

Additional Details:

2018 pick 22

16.

NYR

Wilde, Bode

NYI

Lundkvist, Nils

Additional Details:

2018 pick 28

17.

NYR

Lundeström, Isac

ANA

Lindbom, Olof [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2018 pick 39

18.

NYR

McLaughlin, Blake [Reserve List]

ANA

Ragnarsson, Jacob [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2018 pick 70

19.

NYR

McShane, Allan

MTL

Keane, Joey

Additional Details:

2018 pick 88

20.

NYR

Kurashev, Philipp

CHI

Gross, Nico

Additional Details:

2018 pick 101

21.

NYR

Bouchard, Xavier

VGK

Pajuniemi, Lauri

Additional Details:

2018 pick 132

22.

NYR

Zavgorodny, Dmitri

CGY

Kjellberg, Simon [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2018 pick 163

23.

NYR

Steeves, Alex

TOR

Hughes, Riley [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2018 pick 216

24.

NYR

Kakko, Kaapo (same pick)

CHI

2019 pick 2

25.

NYR

Robertson, Matthew (same pick)

LAK

2019 pick 49

26.

NYR

Dorofeyev, Pavel

VGK

Henriksson, Karl

Additional Details:

2019 pick 58

27.

NYR

Nikolayev, Ilya [Reserve List]

CGY

Jones, Zachary

Additional Details:

2019 pick 68

28.

NYR

Pasic, Nikola [Reserve List]

NJD

Skinner, Hunter

Additional Details:

2019 pick 112

29.

NYR

Guskov, Matvei [Reserve List]

MIN

Aaltonen, Leevi [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2019 pick 130

30.

NYR

Warren, Marshall [Reserve List]

MIN

Edström, Adam [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2019 pick 161

31.

NYR

Wolf, Dustin

CGY

Ciccolini, Eric [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2019 pick 205

32.

NYR

Lafreniere, Alexis (same pick)

LAK

2020 pick 1

33.

NYR

Zary, Connor

CGY

Schneider, Braden

Additional Details:

2020 pick 19

34.

NYR

Poirier, Jérémie

CGY

Cuylle, Will

Additional Details:

2020 pick 60

35.

NYR

Nybeck, Zion [Reserve List]

CAR

Tärnström, Oliver [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2020 pick 92

36.

NYR

Chromiak, Martin

LAK

Garand, Dylan [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2020 pick 103

37.

NYR

Pashin, Alexander [Reserve List]

CAR

Vierling, Evan [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2020 pick 127

38.

NYR

Miettinen, Veeti [Reserve List]

TOR

Berard, Brett [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2020 pick 134

39.

NYR

McClennon, Connor [Reserve List]

PHI

Rempe, Matt [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2020 pick 165

40.

NYR

Magnusson, Oskar [Reserve List]

WSH

Ollas, Hugo [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2020 pick 197

41.

NYR

Wallstedt, Jesper [Reserve List]

MIN

Othmann, Brennan

Additional Details:

2021 pick 16

42.

NYR

Robertsson, Simon [Reserve List]

STL

Grubbe, Jayden [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2021 pick 65

43.

NYR

Salminen, Samu [Reserve List]

NJD

Korczak, Ryder [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2021 pick 75

44.

NYR

Duke, Dylan [Reserve List]

TBL

Lamb, Brody [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2021 pick 104

45.

NYR

Roulette, Conner [Reserve List]

DAL

Väisänen, Kalle [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2021 pick 106

46.

NYR

Ufko, Ryan [Reserve List]

NSH

Boyko, Talyn [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2021 pick 112

47.

NYR

Robidas, Justin [Reserve List]

CAR

Chmelar, Jaroslav [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2021 pick 144

48.

NYR

Gallagher, Ty [Reserve List]

BOS

Kempf, Hank [Reserve List]

Additional Details:

2021 pick 208

Buyouts

Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Anthony Deangelo: $383,334
Brad Richards: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
59	$81,500,000	$102,203,928	$0	$8,616,250	-$20,703,928

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 5	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 6
Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 2	Strome, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Kakko, Kaapo $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) RW RFA - 1
Tolvanen, Eeli $1,450,000$1,450,000 LW, RW RFA - 3	Vilardi, Gabriel $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, C RFA - 1	Wahlstrom, Oliver $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RW RFA - 2
Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 6	Lundeström, Isac $874,125$874,125 C, LW RFA - 1	Kurashev, Philipp $842,500$842,500 ($32,500$32K) LW, C, RW RFA - 1
Zary, Connor $894,167$894,167 LW, C RFA - 4	Veleno, Joseph $894,167$894,167 ($318,750$319K) C RFA - 2	Chromiak, Martin $838,333$838,333 RW RFA - 4
Blais, Samuel $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Steeves, Alex $834,167$834,167 LW, RW RFA - 3	Elvenes, Lucas $776,667$776,667 ($110,000$110K) RW UFA - 1
Gregor, Noah $750,000$750,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Dorofeyev, Pavel $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Robertsson, Simon $925,000$925,000 RW RFA
Duke, Dylan $925,000$925,000 LW RFA	Chmelevski, Alexander $778,333$778,333 ($132,500$132K) C RFA - 1	Nybeck, Zion $925,000$925,000 RW RFA
Roulette, Conner $925,000$925,000 LW RFA	Salminen, Samu $925,000$925,000 C RFA	Zavgorodny, Dmitri $780,000$780,000 C UFA - 2
Nikolayev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 C RFA	McLaughlin, Blake $925,000$925,000 LW RFA	Robidas, Justin $925,000$925,000 C RFA
Pashin, Alexander $925,000$925,000 C, LW, RW RFA	Guskov, Matvei $925,000$925,000 C RFA	Reaves, Ryan $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 1
Sokolov, Dmitry $800,000$800,000	Rooney, Kevin $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Gauthier, Julien $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 1
Chekhovich, Ivan $800,000$800,000	Koltygin, Pavel $800,000$800,000	Fortier, Maxime $800,000$800,000
	McShane, Allan $800,000$800,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindgren, Ryan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD RFA - 3	Fox, Adam $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	Shesterkin, Igor $5,666,667$5,666,667 G UFA - 4
Nemeth, Patrik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Georgiev, Alexandar $2,425,000$2,425,000 G UFA - 1
Poirier, Jérémie $843,333$843,333 LD RFA - 4	Mete, Victor $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden $880,833$880,833 G RFA - 1
Gleason, Benjamin $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1	Wilde, Bode $764,167$764,167 ($132,500$132K) RD UFA - 2	Wolf, Dustin $813,333$813,333 ($20,000$20K) G RFA - 3
Robertson, Matthew $797,500$797,500 ($132,500$132K) LD RFA - 3	Ufko, Ryan $925,000$925,000 RD RFA	Wallstedt, Jesper $925,000$925,000 G RFA
Tinordi, Jarred $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 2	Gallagher, Ty $925,000$925,000 RD RFA
	Bouchard, Xavier $800,000$800,000
	Quenneville, David $800,000$800,000

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CapFriendly.com Armchair-GM User-Generated Roster

FORWARDS (40)
Right Wing: Chris Kreider ($6,500,000) - Kaapo Kakko ($925,000) - Oliver Wahlstrom ($894,167) - Philipp Kurashev ($842,500) - Martin Chromiak ($838,333) - Lucas Elvenes ($776,667) - Simon Robertsson ($925,000) - Zion Nybeck ($925,000) - Dmitri Zavgorodny ($780,000) - Justin Robidas ($925,000) - Ryan Reaves ($1,750,000) - Julien Gauthier ($775,000) - Maxime Fortier ($800,000)
Centre: Mika Zibanejad ($5,350,000) - Ryan Strome ($4,500,000) - Gabriel Vilardi ($894,167) - Isac Lundeström ($874,125) - Joseph Veleno ($894,167) - Alex Steeves ($834,167) - Pavel Dorofeyev ($925,000) - Alexander Chmelevski ($778,333) - Samu Salminen ($925,000) - Blake McLaughlin ($925,000) - Matvei Guskov ($925,000) - Kevin Rooney ($750,000) - Pavel Koltygin ($800,000) - Allan McShane ($800,000)
Left Wing: Artemi Panarin ($11,642,857) - Alexis Lafrenière ($925,000) - Eeli Tolvanen ($1,450,000) - Barclay Goodrow ($3,641,667) - Connor Zary ($894,167) - Samuel Blais ($1,500,000) - Noah Gregor ($750,000) - Dylan Duke ($925,000) - Conner Roulette ($925,000) - Ilya Nikolayev ($925,000) - Alexander Pashin ($925,000) - Dmitry Sokolov ($800,000) - Ivan Chekhovich ($800,000)

DEFENSE (14)
Right: Adam Fox ($925,000) - Jacob Trouba ($8,000,000) - Victor Mete ($1,200,000) - Bode Wilde ($764,167) - Ryan Ufko ($925,000) - Ty Gallagher ($925,000) - Xavier Bouchard ($800,000) - David Quenneville ($800,000)
Left: Ryan Lindgren ($3,000,000) - Patrik Nemeth ($2,500,000) - Jérémie Poirier ($843,333) - Benjamin Gleason ($750,000) - Matthew Robertson ($797,500) - Jarred Tinordi ($900,000)

GOALTENDER (5)
Igor Shesterkin ($5,666,667) - Alexandar Georgiev ($2,425,000) - Cayden Primeau ($880,833) - Dustin Wolf ($813,333) - Jesper Wallstedt ($925,000)

BUYOUTS (5)
Henrik Lundqvist ($1,500,000) - Kevin Shattenkirk ($1,433,333) - Dan Girardi ($1,111,111) - Anthony Deangelo ($383,334) - Brad Richards ($0)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 59
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Cap Hit: $102,203,928
Cap Space: -$20,703,928

Oct. 21, 2021 at 12:06 p.m.

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

Joined: Mar. 2017

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Consensus rarely applies past the top 5, let alone later rounds. This would be more like in hindsight.

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Oct. 21, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.

jt0884

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Why would you guys pick Wallstedt when you have Georgiev and Shesterkin? And if you picked Wolf and Primeau before?

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Oct. 21, 2021 at 12:18 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: ricochetii

Consensus rarely applies past the top 5, let alone later rounds. This would be more like in hindsight.

Totally. I should been more clear in saying these are "average rankings".
So if a player is ranked 8, 14, 17, 11, 10 by five scouting services or draft experts, his consensus ranking would be #12 (8+14+17+11+10 = 60 / 5 = 12).

Quoting: Sharkie0884

Why would you guys pick Wallstedt when you have Georgiev and Shesterkin? And if you picked Wolf and Primeau before?

These are discretion-free, no choice in selections is made.
Its simply taking the highest ranked player remaining (according to consensus/average rankings) at each pick.

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Oct. 21, 2021 at 3:08 p.m.

Rob32sjsharks

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I'm a sharks fan and in now way a rangers fan but I don't think he did a bad job.
yes some picks are better this way than what he did but you have to take into account the needs of the team vs the best pick and the logic suggests he was marginally better than the consensus.

Oct. 21, 2021 at 3:48 p.m.

NHLfan10506

Thread Starter

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

I am a Devils fan, but call me biased. It baffles me that people see Gorton's tenure as a successful one.
Take out luck (lottery wins with Lafreniere, Kakko, and Fox and Panarin falling into their lap), and his time as GM was one blunder after another.

Trading Pionk for Trouba, resigning Trouba at $8 million with full NMC, giving away Ryan Graves for nothing, the Buchnevich thing, paying Kreider $6.5m until he is 36 yrs old, Lias Andersson, Vitali Kravtsov, Tony DeAngelo, teammates punching one another, prospects not reporting to AHL, star players just leaving mid-season because politics upset them, prospects badmouthing each other in press, the whole Braden Schneider thing, the Tom Wilson thing, announcing their rebuild via open letter, then later announcing the rebuild is over only to end up with #1 overall the season after it was "over"

It was a constant dumpster fire.

Oct. 21, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.

Xspyrit

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

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Do you have the public consensus rankings since 2016? Links?

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