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Marner 2

Created by: capsfan2121
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 22, 2021
Published: Oct. 22, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Washington Capitals
Trades
1.
WSH
  1. Marner, Mitchell
TOR
  1. Wilson, Tom
  2. Protas, Aliaksei
  3. 2023 1st round pick (WSH)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
Buried
  • Michal Kempný: $1,375,000 ($2,500,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
WSH
WPG
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
2023
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
2024
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,691,761$472,927$182,500$1,808,239
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WSH
Ovechkin, Alex
$9,500,000
LW, RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
WSH
Kuznetsov, Evgeny
$7,800,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WSH
Sprong, Daniel
$725,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
WSH
Mantha, Anthony
$5,700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
WSH
Eller, Lars
$3,500,000
C
UFA - 2
WSH
Oshie, T.J.
$5,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
WSH
Sheary, Conor
$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
WSH
McMichael, Connor
$863,333
C
RFA - 3
WSH
Hathaway, Garnet
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
WSH
Hagelin, Carl
$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
WSH
Dowd, Nic
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WSH
Fehérváry, Martin
$791,667
LD
RFA - 2
WSH
Carlson, John
$8,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 5
WSH
Samsonov, Ilya
$2,000,000
G
RFA - 1
WSH
Orlov, Dmitry
$5,100,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
WSH
Schultz, Justin
$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
WSH
Vanecek, Vitek
$716,667
G
RFA - 1
WSH
van Riemsdyk, Trevor
$950,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
WSH
Jensen, Nick
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WSH
Lapierre, Hendrix
$894,167
C
RFA - 3
WSH
Bäckström, Nicklas
$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
WSH
Irwin, Matt
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
WSH
Cholowski, Dennis
$900,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Oct. 22 at 2:31 p.m.
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nope
Oct. 22 at 2:32 p.m.
#2
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Quoting: vr1995
nope


I could change the second to a first
Oct. 22 at 2:33 p.m.
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Caps probably cane remove Protas or the 1st. Marner has a huuuuge cap hit.
Oct. 22 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Caps probably cane remove Protas or the 1st. Marner has a huuuuge cap hit.


Yes he does
Oct. 22 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Caps probably cane remove Protas or the 1st. Marner has a huuuuge cap hit.


no they cant
Oct. 22 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Caps probably cane remove Protas or the 1st. Marner has a huuuuge cap hit.


Also it’s hard submitting a Wilson trade
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Oct. 22 at 2:46 p.m.
#7
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I would take that all day long as a Leaf. Any competent GM could spend use that 5.5m cap difference between Wilson and Marner to good use.
Oct. 22 at 2:48 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
I would take that all day long as a Leaf. Any competent GM could spend use that 5.5m cap difference between Wilson and Marner to good use.


Do you still need protas
Oct. 22 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Do you still need protas


No you can keep him, I still like the deal as a Leaf, though I think Protas is intriguing
Oct. 22 at 2:51 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
No you can keep him, I still like the deal as a Leaf, though I think Protas is intriguing


Thanks
Oct. 22 at 2:51 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
I would take that all day long as a Leaf. Any competent GM could spend use that 5.5m cap difference between Wilson and Marner to good use.


Any competent GM wouldnt trade marner for a loss such as this one
Oct. 22 at 3:09 p.m.
#12
Who adds what?
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Leafs fans have been offering Marner for Wilson and a 1st for years. Most Caps fans have been passing every time. Wilson and Ovechkin play really well together. No need to mess that up. Mantha and a backup goalie for Marner, maybe? But it really messes up the Caps' roster, trying to build a decent team after that.
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Oct. 22 at 3:43 p.m.
#13
In Pridham we trust
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As much as Leaf fans (myself included) have toyed with the idea moving on from Marner, at the end of the day the Leafs have a top 3 playmaker and probably the best goal scorer in the world and they are both under 25 yo. I just can't see them breaking that up.

Wilson would obviously bring many needed elements to the Leafs Top 6, but I just don't see it.
Oct. 22 at 3:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Barilko14
As much as Leaf fans (myself included) have toyed with the idea moving on from Marner, at the end of the day the Leafs have a top 3 playmaker and probably the best goal scorer in the world and they are both under 25 yo. I just can't see them breaking that up.

Wilson would obviously bring many needed elements to the Leafs Top 6, but I just don't see it.

Understandable
Oct. 22 at 4:18 p.m.
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Marner isn’t getting traded. People need to understand that
Oct. 22 at 4:18 p.m.
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Quoting: mitchmarner16
Marner isn’t getting traded. People need to understand that


Ok
Oct. 22 at 4:41 p.m.
#17
Campbell for Vezina
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Quoting: mitchmarner16
Marner isn’t getting traded. People need to understand that


this is true. everyone listen to this guy!! please!!!!
Oct. 22 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: odyssey
this is true. everyone listen to this guy!! please!!!!


Ok. It’s hard to replace those kinds of players so I understand
Oct. 22 at 4:47 p.m.
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Campbell for Vezina
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Ok. It’s hard to replace those kinds of players so I understand


im not upset you did a mock trade dont get me wrong, i actually feel like youre close to his value, theres just no way the leafs would trade him during the season
Oct. 22 at 5:07 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
I would take that all day long as a Leaf. Any competent GM could spend use that 5.5m cap difference between Wilson and Marner to good use.


How? What can you get for 5.5 million that is going to make up the massive gulf in skill, points and impact that Marner has over Wilson? Overpay 29 year old FA's for their twilight? Wilson gets points when he plays with top end players. Taking a top end player out of the lineup for him hurts the team in a huge way. Any GM literally dreams of having a marner on their team. All GM's dread being the guy who signs 5.5 million depth players like Neal, Ladd etc etc.
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Oct. 22 at 5:08 p.m.
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Caps probably cane remove Protas or the 1st. Marner has a huuuuge cap hit.


He also is a top 10 point getter. Is 24 and plays a tonne of minutes and is great defensively. He's worth what he gets paid.
Oct. 22 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
Leafs fans have been offering Marner for Wilson and a 1st for years. Most Caps fans have been passing every time. Wilson and Ovechkin play really well together. No need to mess that up. Mantha and a backup goalie for Marner, maybe? But it really messes up the Caps' roster, trying to build a decent team after that.


You are the biggest Caps homer on this site. Good day sir
Oct. 22 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Ok. It’s hard to replace those kinds of players so I understand


Damn near impossible
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Oct. 22 at 5:19 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Damn near impossible


Yep
Oct. 22 at 5:19 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
You are the biggest Caps homer on this site. Good day sir


I know your not saying that to me but what does that mean
 
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