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Average leafs fan thoughts

Created by: CMPunk2014
Initial Creation Date: Oct 24, 2021
Published: Oct 24 at 1:19
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
What goes through the mind of Leafs fans and Leafsnet aka Sportsnet.
Trades
1.
TOR
    A bag of chips.
    ARI
    1. Marner, Mitchell
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2024
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$71,210,116$0$400,000$10,289,884
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    TOR
    Engvall, Pierre
    $1,250,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Bunting, Michael
    $950,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Kase, Ondrej
    $1,250,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Kerfoot, Alexander
    $3,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $900,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Ritchie, Nick
    $2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Kämpf, David
    $1,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Amadio, Michael
    $750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    $5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Mrázek, Petr
    $3,800,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    $5,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    $2,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    $1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    $1,500,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Hutchinson, Michael
    $725,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    $1,645,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1

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    Oct 24 at 1:25
    #1
    No regretzkys
    Joined: Aug 2019
    Posts: 499
    Likes: 225
    You're not wrong.

    Marner and the Leafs have had their fair share out adversity, but man have they ever turned on him. Sad to see.
    Oct 24 at 9:47
    #2
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
    Joined: Jul 2015
    Posts: 40,795
    Likes: 12,335
    Quoting: MadLin27
    You're not wrong.

    Marner and the Leafs have had their fair share out adversity, but man have they ever turned on him. Sad to see.


    Marner is in his somewhat the same situation as Eichel. No good team has the cap for him without dismantling their team in order to fit in a 11m. And poor teams with cap aren't willing to give up much cause they can spend 11m better on UFAs.
    I floated the idea last summer than the Leafs would be better if Leafs exposed 11m Marner and Seattle claimed him.
    Taylor Hall and Zack Hyman signed for 12m.
    Would the Leafs have been better having 13.5m in cap without Marner and the signed Ritchie, and signing Hall and Hyman?
    Oct 24 at 12:55
    #3
    No regretzkys
    Joined: Aug 2019
    Posts: 499
    Likes: 225
    Quoting: palhal
    Marner is in his somewhat the same situation as Eichel. No good team has the cap for him without dismantling their team in order to fit in a 11m. And poor teams with cap aren't willing to give up much cause they can spend 11m better on UFAs.
    I floated the idea last summer than the Leafs would be better if Leafs exposed 11m Marner and Seattle claimed him.
    Taylor Hall and Zack Hyman signed for 12m.
    Would the Leafs have been better having 13.5m in cap without Marner and the signed Ritchie, and signing Hall and Hyman?


    I see your point although I would contest there are some important distinctions between the Eichel/Marner situations.

    Eichel is injured and there is dispute about his value/ medical timeline. They really missed their window to trade him this summer.
    Marner may just be getting traded for a "shake up"/ retool (If the Leafs can't break through this year)

    Exposing Marner would have been a horrible route in my opinion. Not only would it be an indefensible move from an optics perspective, but it would be a bad one in reality.
    Marner still has a ton of value, you'd just have to make a deal in the summer with some big salary coming back.
     
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