Bailey one for one trades

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Created by: joshelkin

Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 24, 2021

Published: Oct. 24, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Just messing around with guys who have somewhat close contracts. Thoughts? Any of these stick?

Trades

NYI

Henrique, Adam ($825,000 retained)

ANA

Bailey, Josh

Additional Details:

Cap hit liability for each team remains unchanged.

NYI

Johnson, Tyler

Additional Details:

From ALJet12

CHI

Bailey

NYI

Nyquist, Gustav

Additional Details:

No retention because Nyquist has 2 years left rather than 3 with Bailey

CBJ

Bailey

NYI

Zuccarello, Mats ($1,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Even cap hits

MIN

Bailey

NYI

MTL

Bailey (would retain $500k if acquiring Hoffman)

NYI

Dadonov, Evgeni

VGK

Bailey

Buyouts

Rick DiPietro: $0

Buried

Leo Komarov: $1,875,000 ($3,000,000)
Thomas Hickey: $1,375,000 ($2,500,000)
Richard Pánik: $250,000 ($1,375,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
29	$81,500,000	$100,860,438	$1,365,854	$2,825,000	-$19,360,438

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lee, Anders $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW NTC UFA - 5	Barzal, Mathew $7,000,000$7,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Palmieri, Kyle $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4
Beauvillier, Anthony $4,150,000$4,150,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Nelson, Brock $6,000,000$6,000,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Martin, Matt $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $5,000,000$5,000,000 C NTC UFA - 5	Clutterbuck, Cal $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW UFA - 1
Johnston, Ross $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 1	Cizikas, Casey $2,500,000$2,500,000 C UFA - 6
Parise, Zach $750,000$750,000 ($750,000$750K) LW UFA - 1	Wahlstrom, Oliver $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RW RFA - 2	Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Zuccarello, Mats $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 3	Bellows, Kieffer $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Nyquist, Gustav $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Henrique, Adam $631,250$631,250 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 3	Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3
		Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pelech, Adam $5,750,000$5,750,000 LD UFA - 8	Pulock, Ryan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Sorokin, Ilya $4,000,000$4,000,000 G UFA - 3
Chara, Zdeno $750,000$750,000 ($750,000$750K) LD UFA - 1	Mayfield, Scott $1,450,000$1,450,000 RD UFA - 2	Schneider, Cory $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Greene, Andy $750,000$750,000 ($250,000$250K) LD/RD UFA - 1	Dobson, Noah $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RD RFA - 1
Aho, Sebastian $725,000$725,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Varlamov, Semyon $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2	Boychuk, Johnny $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Oct. 24, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.

zk97

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based on these trades mtl doesn’t give up drouin or hoffman

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Oct. 24, 2021 at 7:34 p.m.

WhereArtTLuongo

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Bailey 30% retained for Pearson LOL

Oct. 24, 2021 at 7:37 p.m.

Billy739

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So trade away our Team leader in Points in Drouin who's surging after his time off and Hoffman?

We'll give you Armia take it or leave it
Even then i'd prefer Armia his cap and contract is great for us

Oct. 24, 2021 at 7:57 p.m.

bagelbob

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why are you trading bailey one for one for anyone?

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Oct. 24, 2021 at 7:57 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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Why are all the other options so much worse than the Montréal ones?

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Oct. 24, 2021 at 7:58 p.m.

dopplsan

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CBJ say nah.

Oct. 24, 2021 at 8:02 p.m.

Warrior24

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Trade him for a pick and bring up Golyshev.

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Oct. 24, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.

mokumboi

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You're not calculating "even cap hits" right. For instance, you essentially have the Wild paying 6M for Bailey while the Isles only pay 5M for Zucc. You'd need to halve the retention amounts listed in the ANA and MINN trades to come out with even cap hits. Just FYI.

Oct. 24, 2021 at 8:10 p.m.

GophersBenJ

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Minnesota says no. They aren't trading their 1st line wing, partner to kaprizov for An expensive @best 3rd line winger who wouldn't even be that on Minnesota. In addition Minnesota wouldn't trade the best player in the deal and also retain

Oct. 24, 2021 at 8:12 p.m.

#10

MisstheWhalers

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Wheeler, Scheifele thinks Bailey is good!

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Oct. 24, 2021 at 8:38 p.m.

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joshelkin

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Quoting: Billy739

It was one or the other not both

Quoting: mokumboi

Zucc's cap hit is $6m. Bailey is $5m. So yes the math is correct. Both team's cap have the same cap responsibility as before the trade.

Zucc = 6. Bailey + 1 = 6

Bailey = 5. Zucc - 1 = 5

Oct. 24, 2021 at 11:20 p.m.

#12

BorisBagel

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NYI adds Barzal, Habs add Byron and Poehling

Oct. 25, 2021 at 12:00 a.m.

#13

joshelkin

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Quoting: BorisBagel

NYI adds Barzal, Habs add Byron and Poehling

it wasn't both of them. Either or.

Oct. 25, 2021 at 5:29 a.m.

#14

mokumboi

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Quoting: joshelkin

Zucc's cap hit is $6m. Bailey is $5m. So yes the math is correct. Both team's cap have the same cap responsibility as before the trade.

Zucc = 6. Bailey + 1 = 6

Bailey = 5. Zucc - 1 = 5

Bruh.

Oct. 25, 2021 at 10:18 a.m.

#15

joshelkin

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Quoting: mokumboi

Bruh.

What is the confusion here? It's simple math...I don't know if your tied up on the wording or what but I can't explain it much better. The Wild have $6m in cap before/after the trade. The Isles have $5m in cap before/after the trade.

Oct. 25, 2021 at 10:23 a.m.

#16

mokumboi

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Quoting: joshelkin

Yeah, and you transfer $1M in cap burden in the deal. So basically they're paying Zucc wages to Bailey, and the Isles get to pay Bailey wages to Zucc. You've basically flipped the contracts, not evened their cap burdens out. So perhaps it is the wording. No biggie.

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