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Can we please put this narrative to rest

Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 25, 2021
Published: Oct. 25, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
If the Leafs don't sign JT this is what the team looks more like. This team would struggle to make the playoffs
Free Agent Signings
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Lindholm, Par
1$925,000
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$79,749,783$0$0$1,750,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,600,000$3,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Lindholm, Par
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.
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KFTW
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You have to think they would’ve used some cap space on a 2LW and a 3C.
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Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:10 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
You have to think they would’ve used some cap space on a 2LW and a 3C.


Barely any available unless they trade assets to get out of the Zaitsev deal
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:15 p.m.
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I think JT is awesome, but Kadri and Hyman +1M vs JT is something I have to think about.
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:15 p.m.
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You have no idea what they would have done with that cap space
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:17 p.m.
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Hakuna Matata
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Seeing Zaitsev on this team brings back bad memories
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:25 p.m.
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C,mon Leafs...Please
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My issue is the proof that in making a championship team it has been shown for over a decade that there is a formula. That's been thrown out the window by Leaf's management.

Since the salary cap era started no team had ever...EVER... won even a single series with a player on the team making over $10 MIL...until last year which was a fluke due to the pandemic realigned divisions. With these known facts Dubas not only signed one player over $10, he signed 3. Once that happened I knew the Leafs were handcuffed financially again for many years and would have to go through a rebuild again in 10 years to try to win it in 15 - 20 years IF franchise caliber stars again are available in the Leafs drafting positions.
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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Ovchinnikov 137
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Quoting: aadoyle
Seeing Zaitsev on this team brings back bad memories


Couldn’t stay away I see
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: csick
You have to think they would’ve used some cap space on a 2LW and a 3C.


Matthews and Marner would have signed for cheaper without the JT signing ( it rased the bar and TML had to pay them more since their stats were similar the next year).

So even more capspace would have been available.

But everybody knows that already...
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Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.
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All I know is the last time I really loved this team was in 2017 against WSH:
Hyman Matthews Nylander
JVR Bozak Marner
Uncle Leo Kadri Brown
Martin Boyle Kapanen
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Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:48 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Matthews and Marner would have signed for cheaper without the JT signing ( it rased the bar and TML had to pay them more since their stats were similar the next year).

So even more capspace would have been available.

But everybody knows that already...


Look at my newest AGM
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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This post is pretty dishonest....

Erasing the consequences of a bad signing doesn't mean no good moves could had been done...

It's just a bare minimum of what had been.
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:55 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
All I know is the last time I really loved this team was in 2017 against WSH:
Hyman Matthews Nylander
JVR Bozak Marner
Uncle Leo Kadri Brown
Martin Boyle Kapanen


Nice foward group but the Dcore sucked.
Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:56 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Nice foward group but the Dcore sucked.


It was god awful

Edit
But I still loved the team. It’s been a few years now since I can say that, which sucks
Oct. 26, 2021 at 12:35 a.m.
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leafs had JVR, bozak, and komarov leaving in UFA. Their leading scorer, a veteran centre and a huge team guy/reliable checking forward. The leafs made a calculation that dropping $11M on a then-franchise centre was preferable to paying like $16M to bring those guys back (also keeping in mind JT was the youngest of all 3)

it was a sticky situtation compounded by the fact that all 3 of the big guys were in need of extensions in like 1-2 years time. it was a good move then, but obviously JT is overpaid and can't drive a line like he used to
 
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