Pens dont have the cap space for that. We only have 121k when malkin returns

They can do someone else other than McGinn just thought he matched with cap space, add a guy like Simon or Lafferty to make cap even

Some nice new names acquired, but I think both those teams say no.

McGinn isn;t anything special, but 3.5mil Kerfoot is overpaid and too much for most teams cap. McGinn would be a nice add, but PITTS isnt taking kerfoot
And NYI dont even think about it.

As far as value goes the Pens trade is perfectly fine, but the issue is money. While Kerfoot only makes $750K more that's about $500K of space the Pens don't have, but it's not a bad trade.

Why are you guys all so quick to move Kerfoot?

Simon isn't going anywhere, but the Pens would happily add Lafferty to the trade.

He is making too much money for a guy who struggles to find a spot on this team. He needs a defined role and hasn't found one here. In Pitt he will be the second line center until Malkin comes back. To match cap you can add a guy like Lafferty or Simon

I think you underestimate the need for a centre for Pittsburgh right now and how effective Rielly can be. Plus the Isles do not have a strong LD

Oh, I'm not arguing his fit with the Pens. I just think he's the type of player that once you move, you'll be saying "Hey, we need a middle six forward who can play both W/C" lol

Honestly, you guys need a new coach, not a player shakeup.

We already fired one coach, at what point do you blame the players? You cannot keep allowing them to play like **** and get away with it by only losing a coach. Names need to be moved in order to truly send a message

Babcock is one of the most overrated coaches of all time, but you guys were also a much better team with him than you are with Keefe. Keefe hasn't give your team any sense of identity. He reminds me a lot of Bylsma.

Also, if you're going to do a shakeup, you probably want to move players who actually have impacts like Nylander or Marner.

I agree on that. A new coach and one of the big 3 has to go, if only for cap space to improve the team. 90% of the talent lies in 4 forwards and 3 dmen, the icetime and talent level has way too much of a dropoff (which is a GM issue), but for Toronto to BUILD A TEAM, they need to change that cap structure.

Tavares looks slow, Muzzin and Holl look like clueless (and slow) rookies out there.

That cap space is with Lafferty, O'Connor, and Friedman sent down lol

Leafs actually had played better (win % wise) with Keefe over Babs. I don't think the coach in this situation should be the one to take the fall. What can he do differently? Go onto the ice, put Marner between his legs, grab his hands, and show him how to score a goal as if he were five?

Make a trade before cycling through a third coach in 3 years

Yeah, but you also have to think about timing. Babs had them in the beginning, Keefe had them after a few years of development. The major difference as an outsider looking in, is the Leafs had an identity. They were a north/south speed team that played an aggressive offense game. Now the leafs are kinda just all over the place.

I bring this up because I think there's a lot of similarities with you guys as there was with the middle years of the Pens with Crosby. We burned through four coaches before Sullivan and while Bylsma won us a cup, he really just caught lightning in a bottle. He was a disaster of a coach and had this team playing with no real identity. Babs gave you guys an identity and while I think he's an overrated coach, I think you'd probably be further along now than you are with Keefe.

With Babs, the guys looked the worst I had ever seen prior to his firing (that includes this 7 game stretch). They were lost on and off the ice without an answer

For starters than should go back to the 1-1-3 neutral zone forecheck they used last year (to great success, who didn't love the dcore then) instead of going back to the 1-2-2 they have always used and have gone back to this season. Not sure if that was Dean Chynoweth's idea or Keefe's but this team looks lost.

Beauvillier is the isles best winger and he’s on a great contract. Isles wouldn’t do this trade even if leafs added a 1st. Pelech is better than Rielly , isles do not need to trade for a big name LHD