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Manifest Eichel

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Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 26, 2021
Published: Oct. 26, 2021
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Description
Calgary Receives
- Eichel

Calgary Sends
- Monahan (To Boston)
- Salary to Buffalo ($2.875)
- Zary
- Zadorov
- 2022 1st Rd Pick



Boston Receives
- Monahan (@ $3.5M)

Boston Sends
- 2022 1st Rd Pick (Buffalo)
- Senyshyn




Buffalo Receives
- Zary
- Zadorov
- Senyshyn
- 2022 1st Rd Pick (Cgy)
- 2022 1st Rd Pick (Bos)
- $2.875M Cap Hit (Monahan)

Buffalo Sends
- Eichel
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Zadorov, Nikita
  2. Zary, Connor
  3. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
2.875M Cap Hit (Monahan)
2.
CGY
BOS
  1. Monahan, Sean
Additional Details:
@ 3.5M Cap hit
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$74,065,000$0$0$7,435,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 1
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$827,500$827,500
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
LD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 26, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.
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Zadorov and Senyshyn have negative value, Sabres want Pelletier as well (over Zary or with if youre so inclined)
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Zadorov and Senyshyn have negative value, Sabres want Pelletier as well (over Zary or with if youre so inclined)


Oh no way, when in the Sabres camp say they prefer Pelletier? I haven't heard that yet, definitely an interesting development. If I'm the Flames I would way rather send Pelletier, done and done.

Zadorov makes the cap work and Senyshyn could be an upgraded prospect at this point nothing going to Buffalo is negative, a captain that won't play for the Sabres is more negative than anything.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:26 p.m.
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Oh no way, when in the Sabres camp say they prefer Pelletier? I haven't heard that yet, definitely an interesting development. If I'm the Flames I would way rather send Pelletier, done and done.

Zadorov makes the cap work and Senyshyn could be an upgraded prospect at this point nothing going to Buffalo is negative, a captain that won't play for the Sabres is more negative than anything.


Not if teams want him. Dube makes the cap work. Senyshyn is a career AHLer, going to need much more
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.
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Not if teams want him. Dube makes the cap work. Senyshyn is a career AHLer, going to need much more


I'm curious about the Pelletier Zary thing if you have a source to that I would love to read it, I find that fascinating

Meehh, market is dwindling a bit, not long until there is a grievance, then at that point a trade doesn't really make sense until at least the draft next year. I think teams would rather hold out for a price they can manage as opposed to blowing the system or roster to get a guy that won't play any time soon.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.
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I'm curious about the Pelletier Zary thing if you have a source to that I would love to read it, I find that fascinating

Meehh, market is dwindling a bit, not long until there is a grievance, then at that point a trade doesn't really make sense until at least the draft next year. I think teams would rather hold out for a price they can manage as opposed to blowing the system or roster to get a guy that won't play any time soon.


then they can wait 5 years to take a shot at him as a ufa
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:39 p.m.
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then they can wait 5 years to take a shot at him as a ufa


Zary Pelletier?
Oct. 26, 2021 at 3:31 p.m.
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Zadorov and Senyshyn have negative value, Sabres want Pelletier as well (over Zary or with if youre so inclined)


Since when? When did Buffalo prefer Pelletier? I thought they wanted a strong center prospect back
Oct. 26, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.
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Not if teams want him. Dube makes the cap work. Senyshyn is a career AHLer, going to need much more


Dube made the cap work before the Gudbranson signing, he does not make the cap work anymore. Zadorov does though. He is almost entirely a cap dump in this scenario and does not block any of Buffalo's prospects since his contract is only 1 year
Oct. 26, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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Zadorov and Senyshyn have negative value, Sabres want Pelletier as well (over Zary or with if youre so inclined)


Where did you get that Adams wants Pelletier, not Zary?
Oct. 26, 2021 at 4:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Zadorov and Senyshyn have negative value, Sabres want Pelletier as well (over Zary or with if youre so inclined)


I think Senyshyn sucks, but how is he negative value?
Oct. 26, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.
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I think Senyshyn sucks, but how is he negative value?


Hes worth nothing, wont get a shot in Buffalo, so they cant even move him for something in the end. He is taking value away from that trade unless Buffalo is super worried about boosting production on Rochesters 3rd line
Oct. 26, 2021 at 5:23 p.m.
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Hes worth nothing, wont get a shot in Buffalo, so they cant even move him for something in the end. He is taking value away from that trade unless Buffalo is super worried about boosting production on Rochesters 3rd line


Well, first off, that’s not negative value.

Second off, unless you’re buying into this hot start, wouldn’t it be prudent for the Sabres to take shots at guys that have a decent tool kit that haven’t put it together at the NHL level yet?
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.
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Where did you get that Adams wants Pelletier, not Zary?


He won't answer that one.... Radio silent every time!
Oct. 26, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
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Well, first off, that’s not negative value.

Second off, unless you’re buying into this hot start, wouldn’t it be prudent for the Sabres to take shots at guys that have a decent tool kit that haven’t put it together at the NHL level yet?


The Sabres have many better prospects at RW, not a chance he could make it to Buffalo
Oct. 26, 2021 at 7:28 p.m.
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The Sabres have many better prospects at RW, not a chance he could make it to Buffalo


Right, that doesn’t really address what i said. Also, unless you’re actually buying in (please tell me you aren’t), there’s very much a chance he would make buffalo. Kind of tough to tell. Again, i think he stinks, but he hasn’t really had an opportunity yet.
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
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Right, that doesn’t really address what i said. Also, unless you’re actually buying in (please tell me you aren’t), there’s very much a chance he would make buffalo. Kind of tough to tell. Again, i think he stinks, but he hasn’t really had an opportunity yet.


Buy in or not, he has no chance to make Buffalo is what im saying. If theres injuries, Murray, Quinn, Peterka, and Weissbach all get called up well before he would
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:38 a.m.
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Buy in or not, he has no chance to make Buffalo is what im saying. If theres injuries, Murray, Quinn, Peterka, and Weissbach all get called up well before he would


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Where did you get that Adams wants Pelletier, not Zary?


Still nothing to report on the Zary Pelletier thing?
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:41 a.m.
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Buy in or not, he has no chance to make Buffalo is what im saying. If theres injuries, Murray, Quinn, Peterka, and Weissbach all get called up well before he would


Alright, well why aren’t they in the NHL now?

What’s better for buffalo long term, okposo, or a 23 year old or whatever he is that at least has a chance of developing. Keep in mind, I’ve said all along i think he sucks, but i don’t see any bad outcome to buffalo acquiring him as a throw in, so i don’t see where you’re getting negative value from.
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:45 a.m.
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Alright, well why aren’t they in the NHL now?

What’s better for buffalo long term, okposo, or a 23 year old or whatever he is that at least has a chance of developing. Keep in mind, I’ve said all along i think he sucks, but i don’t see any bad outcome to buffalo acquiring him as a throw in, so i don’t see where you’re getting negative value from.


Because there's 12 (14 technically) bodies in the forward group and they have 0 reason to rush them. Also Murray is up because Mitts is out. Youre trying to defend trading Eichel for a career AHLer, you do realize that? I'll give Boston a 6th to give him a shot, Im not throwing him in a package for Eichel on the extreme off chance he works out
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:47 a.m.
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Still nothing to report on the Zary Pelletier thing?


This is clearly my opinion, thats why im not answering this dumb question, stop turning this into Reddit, soumer, "Where's your sooooooouuuuurrrrrce, I need a sooouuuuuuuuuuurrrrrcce"
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:48 a.m.
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Because there's 12 (14 technically) bodies in the forward group and they have 0 reason to rush them. Also Murray is up because Mitts is out. Youre trying to defend trading Eichel for a career AHLer, you do realize that? I'll give Boston a 6th to give him a shot, Im not throwing him in a package for Eichel on the extreme off chance he works out


Where have i defended trading eichel for a career AHLer? Where have i made any comment on the trade itself?

Is a 6th negative value too?
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
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Where have i defended trading eichel for a career AHLer? Where have i made any comment on the trade itself?

Is a 6th negative value too?


depends on context, if you trade a 6th for a 7th, that is negative value, if you trade a franchise center for a dman you dont need and cant move and a career AHLer that is negative value
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.
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This is clearly my opinion, thats why im not answering this dumb question, stop turning this into Reddit, soumer, "Where's your sooooooouuuuurrrrrce, I need a sooouuuuuuuuuuurrrrrcce"


I don't know what Reddit is, but sure man, I mean you said it like a fact or that you speak for the Sabres organization so I was curious, all you had to say at the start was that it's your opinion, everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if it's wrong like yours!
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.
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depends on context, if you trade a 6th for a 7th, that is negative value, if you trade a franchise center for a dman you dont need and cant move and a career AHLer that is negative value


No no no. That’s not what you were saying, or how this works.

Assets either have positive, neutral, or negative value. You said Senyshyn was negative value, but you would trade a 6th for him. That makes negative sense. You also said i was defending this trade, which I never even came close to doing.
Oct. 27, 2021 at 11:03 a.m.
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I don't know what Reddit is

How. I hate reddit, but its one of the most prevalent websites on the internet and is commonly referenced in modern culture, thats like saying idk what google is
 
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