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marner is underrated and overhated

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Initial Creation Date: Oct. 26, 2021
Published: Oct. 26, 2021
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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Agreed. At some point he will return to form. Players don’t just forget how to play hockey.
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:12 p.m.
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He's the highest paid winger in the league other than Panarin. I think it's fair for people to have high expectations for him. So far Nylander has been outperforming him.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:13 p.m.
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True and also true

But as someone who has died on the hill of "Marner isnt actually bad" Im starting to understand the frustration of leafs fans, were a simple people honestly we just want to watch players work hard and win some games but right now neither is happening
And of course a player making 11 mill that isnt working hard and isnt helping the team win on a night to night basis is only gonna add fuel to the fire

In conclusion when the leafs get to the point where they have to trade Marner its gonna suck seeing him score 100pts for someone else
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: GenXHockey
Agreed. At some point he will return to form. Players don’t just forget how to play hockey.


Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
He's the highest paid winger in the league other than Panarin. I think it's fair for people to have high expectations for him. So far Nylander has been outperforming him.


I agree. He is overhated but hasn't performed to expectations.
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
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He’s over paid. If he made 2m less people wouldn’t care as much

But this is the monster leafs media created crowning him the best GTA raised maple leafs in their history when he was on his elc. They created such an expectation for him that he was bound to fail achieving no matter what
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
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My coffee is percolated and caffeinated
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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Waiting for the Leafs to trade him and watching him continue on from his 94 point season
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
He’s over paid. If he made 2m less people wouldn’t care as much

But this is the monster leafs media created crowning him the best GTA raised maple leafs in their history when he was on his elc. They created such an expectation for him that he was bound to fail achieving no matter what


Nailed it. Toronto media talk up all their young talented players (blue jays and raptors included) and when they don't touch those expectations they get ripped
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:34 p.m.
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10.893 for 0 playoff goals in 18 games, multiple 1st round exits and now being a total liability. I’d say it’s warranted
Oct. 26, 2021 at 3:38 p.m.
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I'm not sure about being underrated there aren't many players making over $10M a season. But he definitely isn't deserving of all the hate gets here.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.
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marner is rated
Oct. 26, 2021 at 5:11 p.m.
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I disagree. I dont watch many leafs games but the main thing that i hear from leafs fans is the lack of effort. That he just doesnt care. If thats the case he deserves all the hate he gets.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
He’s over paid. If he made 2m less people wouldn’t care as much

But this is the monster leafs media created crowning him the best GTA raised maple leafs in their history when he was on his elc. They created such an expectation for him that he was bound to fail achieving no matter what


It’s the market. Regardless of the money. It’s the effort that pisses people off.
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:50 a.m.
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I disagree. I dont watch many leafs games but the main thing that i hear from leafs fans is the lack of effort. That he just doesnt care. If thats the case he deserves all the hate he gets.


Ignore fans when you try and formulate opinions bc they are (insert non forum rules word here)
Oct. 27, 2021 at 10:50 a.m.
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10.893 for 0 playoff goals in 18 games, multiple 1st round exits and now being a total liability. I’d say it’s warranted


He isn't a goalscorer (even though he can score 30)
Oct. 27, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: habsfan00
Ignore fans when you try and formulate opinions bc they are (insert non forum rules word here)


Thats true but things like that arent a question of how well can a fan evaluate someone its a very simple yes or no if theyre putting in effort. Its very hard to be biased in something like that.
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Oct. 27, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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He isn't a goalscorer (even though he can score 30)

That doesn’t excuse no goals in 18 games especially when you see the chances he passes up
Oct. 30, 2021 at 12:00 a.m.
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That doesn’t excuse no goals in 18 games especially when you see the chances he passes up


He isn't a goal scorer
 
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