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Created by: stephane_robidas
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 26, 2021
Published: Oct. 26, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
Team Explanation
Young and stacked.
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Rossi, Marco
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (MIN)
  4. 2022 5th round pick (SJS)
MIN
  1. Larkin, Dylan ($3,000,000 retained)
2.
DET
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (PIT)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
3.
DET
  1. 2023 1st round pick (WSH)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Leddy, Nick ($2,750,000 retained)
4.
DET
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
  2. 2024 5th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Stecher, Troy
  2. Gagner, Sam
5.
DET
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Greiss, Thomas
6.
DET
  1. 2024 4th round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
Buyouts
  • Frans Nielsen: $4,250,000
  • Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Dylan Larkin: $3,000,000 (49.18%)
  • Nick Leddy: $2,750,000 (100%)
  • Nick Leddy: $2,750,000 (50%)
  • Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
  • Vladislav Namestnikov: $1,000,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$67,229,723$0$4,200,000$14,270,277
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Vrána, Jakub
$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 3
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Suter, Pius
$3,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Raymond, Lucas
$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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Fabbri, Robby
$2,950,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Rossi, Marco
$894,167
C
RFA - 4
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Zadina, Filip
$894,167
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Rask, Victor
$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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Rasmussen, Michael
$1,460,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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Erne, Adam
$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Stephens, Mitchell
$737,500
C
RFA - 1
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Rowney, Carter
$825,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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DeKeyser, Danny
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Hronek, Filip
$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 3
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Nedeljkovic, Alex
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Staal, Marc
$2,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Seider, Moritz
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
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Pickard, Calvin
$800,000
G
UFA - 1
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Oesterle, Jordan
$1,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Lindström, Gustav
$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Smith, Givani
$750,000
LW
RFA - 2
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Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Murphy, Ryan
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 26, 2021 at 8:52 p.m.
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Capitals decline right now maybe in 15 games or a little more than that. Can you take Kempny
Oct. 26, 2021 at 8:53 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Capitals decline right now maybe in 15 games or a little more than that. Can you take Kempny


Can take Kempny but still want a first and a third with half retention.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 8:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Marshallchapman9
Can take Kempny but still want a first and a third with half retention.


Ok
Oct. 26, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.
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Kassian is definitely not a cap dump. I am one of those Edmonton fans who’s always believed his size, skill and demeanour is an asset, especially in the playoffs. Now that he’s off to a great start (3-2-5 in 4GP) because he’s got quality line mates, it’s safe to say he’s not going anywhere.
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 9:12 p.m.
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Wild wouldn't have the money to re-sign Larkin in two years, so it's a no for me.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.
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Wild wouldn't have the money to re-sign Larkin in two years, so it's a no for me.


Why not? I'm not familiar enough with them - but I've heard they need a center now.
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 9:28 p.m.
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No way the Pens trade that much draft capital for Bertuzzi. And I’m a huge Bertuzzi fan too. But is Bertuzzi a 1st, two 2nds and a 3rd upgrade over Zucker( a 4 prospect upgrade)

I bet the Sabers would jump on that offer for Eichel. Getting a 1st, two 2nds, and a 3rd.

Plus Zucker should have value to a contender at the TD. Even if they have to retain 1M-2M for 1 more season. Zucker at 3.5M or 4.5M for 1 more year looks a lot better than 5.5M.

I bet if retained 2M for next season on Zucker, he would bring back a late 1st to a contender at 3.5M.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 9:56 p.m.
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Your expectations for Leddy and Greiss are WAY out of whack. They aren't returning half that.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 10:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Marshallchapman9
Why not? I'm not familiar enough with them - but I've heard they need a center now.


Suter and Parise buyout. Wild have lik 10-15mil to resign 6-7players of their own before or during free agency this upcoming free agency
Oct. 26, 2021 at 10:10 p.m.
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I think oilers keep kassian till the end of the year and trade him then
Oct. 26, 2021 at 10:36 p.m.
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Wild would have no money to sign Larkin after two years, plus there is no guarantee he would sign. We'd rather have the certainty Rossi brings.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.
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Larkin @ $3,000,000 is worth a hell of a lot more then Marco Rossi and Victor Rask cap dump and a 2022 MINN 2nd round pick and a 2022 SJ 5th round pick you're grossly undervaluing Larkin here.
Oct. 27, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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Quoting: OutCold13
Wild wouldn't have the money to re-sign Larkin in two years, so it's a no for me.


2 years of Larkin at $3.1m is really enticing. Resigning Larkin would hurt in year 3 and 4 of the buyouts, but I think they can make the cap work and they would have him locked up for after the dead cap is (mostly) gone.

Also no way the Wings should make that trade. If Rossi don't hit his ceiling then it could be really bad for them. It's worth mentioning the unknown longterm effects that COVID/heart thing will have on Rossi in this too.
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Oct. 27, 2021 at 12:26 a.m.
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I have no interest in a player who can't play in 7 NHL cities.
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Oct. 27, 2021 at 1:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Marshallchapman9
Why not? I'm not familiar enough with them - but I've heard they need a center now.


They do need a center, but the next 3 years Wild will be in trouble with the cap due to the Parise/ Suter buyouts. This year this were low hits but next year they will cost the Wild 13 million against the cap and the two years after that about 15 million against the cap.
Oct. 27, 2021 at 1:33 a.m.
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2 years of Larkin at $3.1m is really enticing. Resigning Larkin would hurt in year 3 and 4 of the buyouts, but I think they can make the cap work and they would have him locked up for after the dead cap is (mostly) gone.

Also no way the Wings should make that trade. If Rossi don't hit his ceiling then it could be really bad for them. It's worth mentioning the unknown longterm effects that COVID/heart thing will have on Rossi in this too.


There are ways to make the cap work but that probably means moving Fiala, Dumba, Greenway, and possibly Zuccarello. Not sure what Larkins next contract looks like, but best guess is 7.5/ over 8 years, but just a guess.
Oct. 27, 2021 at 2:06 a.m.
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There are ways to make the cap work but that probably means moving Fiala, Dumba, Greenway, and possibly Zuccarello. Not sure what Larkins next contract looks like, but best guess is 7.5/ over 8 years, but just a guess.


I think all of them are gone anyways except maybe Greenway (by far the cheapest) and not in the team's long term plans. I'd much rather dump Spurgeon and keep Dumba, but his full NTC kills any of that.
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Oct. 27, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
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Wings need more for Larkin. At least a 1rst or 2.
 
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