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complete tear down

Created by: goknightsgo
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 27, 2021
Published: Oct. 27, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2022 7th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Strome, Dylan
  2. De Haan, Calvin
2.
CHI
  1. Gibson, John
  2. Drysdale, Jamie
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. Murphy, Connor
  3. Subban, Malcolm
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (VGK)
  5. 2022 6th round pick (CBJ)
  6. 2022 7th round pick (EDM)
3.
CHI
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
  2. Kubalik, Dominik
  3. Toews, Jonathan ($2,000,000 retained)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (TBL)
  5. 2022 7th round pick (CHI)
4.
CHI
  1. 2022 4th round pick (COL)
  2. 2022 1st round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Connolly, Brett
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 7th round pick (CHI)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Jonathan Toews: $2,000,000 (19.05%)
  • Olli Määttä: $750,108 (18%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
DET
CHI
ANA
EDM
CHI
COL
CHI
2023
CHI
CHI
CHI
EDM
CHI
CHI
CHI
2024
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$59,397,547$452,439$1,765,000$22,102,453
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CHI
Hagel, Brandon
$1,500,000
LW
RFA - 3
CHI
Borgström, Henrik
$1,000,000
C
RFA - 2
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
CHI
Hardman, Mike
$912,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Gaudette, Adam
$997,500
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Johnson, Tyler
$5,000,000
RW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
CHI
Kurashev, Philipp
$842,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Khaira, Jujhar
$975,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
CHI
Carpenter, Ryan
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
CHI
Entwistle, Mackenzie
$811,667
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Johnson, Reese
$880,833
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$1,175,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CHI
McCabe, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
CHI
Jones, Seth
$5,400,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Lankinen, Kevin
$800,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
Stillman, Riley
$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 3
CHI
Mitchell, Ian
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ANA
Gibson, John
$6,400,000
G
NTC
UFA - 6
CHI
Gustafsson, Erik
$800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ANA
Drysdale, Jamie
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CHI
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
CHI
Jones, Caleb
$850,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Oct. 27 at 10:51 a.m.
#1
Go Jets Go
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 3,686
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Oh no what is that ANA trade?
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Oct. 27 at 10:51 a.m.
#2
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CBJ would make that Detroit trade, giving 2022 CBJ 1st and a 4th for Dach, Connelly and 2 picks.
Oct. 27 at 10:56 a.m.
#3
First NY Then LA
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 21,355
Likes: 11,234
If that offer were for John Gibson alone, we'd still turn it down.

Moreover, we wouldn't pay that second for any one of the elements in that offer - even Connor Murphy.
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Oct. 27 at 10:57 a.m.
#4
Joined: Nov. 2018
Posts: 3,237
Likes: 3,374
That Ducks trade has to be up there for one of the worst I've seen on this site

The Ducks dont trade Drysdale or Gibson for that, they might not even give up a second for that let alone all three
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Oct. 27 at 11:02 a.m.
#5
Vegan Commie Hipster
Joined: Oct. 2020
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 3,232
It's a cogent trade but

Keith De Haan Ceci at a combined 13M 😬

If CHI take back Koskinen it definitely helps
Oct. 27 at 11:04 a.m.
#6
Vegan Commie Hipster
Joined: Oct. 2020
Posts: 7,848
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With raymond and nedeljkovic added and nothing subtracted off the roster I doubt that 1st is going to be high enough to justify trading dach
Oct. 27 at 11:04 a.m.
#7
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Posts: 938
Likes: 354
DET would probably take that trade, especially if it's made in season. You'd be banking on the hope that Dach improves the middle enough to drive up the win totals, which would make that pick down into the 10s. Dach is easily worth a 10-20 pick, especially because you know who he is, and you throw out the crapshoot.
Oct. 27 at 11:09 a.m.
#8
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 428
Likes: 256
That Anaheim trade is awful for the Ducks. The BUF and DET trades are awful for Chicago.
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Oct. 27 at 11:09 a.m.
#9
PlusMinus is stupid
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,903
Likes: 2,614
Detroit needs to see where they are in the standings. Make it a top 5 protected pick and we probably make that deal for Dach.
Oct. 27 at 11:36 a.m.
#10
DmitryCoolikovinsta
Joined: Nov. 2020
Posts: 1,036
Likes: 420
oilers aren't trading a top 6 player for a bottom 6 player
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Oct. 27 at 11:42 a.m.
#11
Banned
Joined: Jun. 2016
Posts: 33,053
Likes: 8,998
That garbage doesn't get Drysdale and Gibson, And teams that go through tear downs. Don't go after high end talent like Jack Eichel.
Oct. 27 at 11:48 a.m.
#12
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Posts: 13,607
Likes: 4,714
Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Detroit needs to see where they are in the standings. Make it a top 5 protected pick and we probably make that deal for Dach.


Quoting: TMarch
DET would probably take that trade, especially if it's made in season. You'd be banking on the hope that Dach improves the middle enough to drive up the win totals, which would make that pick down into the 10s. Dach is easily worth a 10-20 pick, especially because you know who he is, and you throw out the crapshoot.


Wait, so you think Dach is only worth a 10 to 20 pick? Are you on drugs? Dach was 3rd OA in 2019 and arguably he and hughes as of today would be fighting for the #1 OA pick if the draft were to happen again. In what world do you not think Dach is not worth a top 5 pick PLUS given that he's a known NHL player now with no risk, 20 years old on a ELC, and playing lights out so far this season as probably the best Hawk on the roster maybe only behind Debrincat?
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Oct. 27 at 12:04 p.m.
#13
PlusMinus is stupid
Joined: May 2018
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Likes: 2,614
Quoting: ChiHawk
Wait, so you think Dach is only worth a 10 to 20 pick? Are you on drugs? Dach was 3rd OA in 2019 and arguably he and hughes as of today would be fighting for the #1 OA pick if the draft were to happen again. In what world do you not think Dach is not worth a top 5 pick PLUS given that he's a known NHL player now with no risk, 20 years old on a ELC, and playing lights out so far this season as probably the best Hawk on the roster maybe only behind Debrincat?

It's not what he's worth, it's what we can give up at this stage of rebuild. I DEFINITELY think he's worth a top 5-10, maybe say top 3 protected then? This draft is just too good, so Detroit can't afford to pass on one of those top 3 picks, even for a former top 3 pick, who is very good.
Oct. 27 at 12:13 p.m.
#14
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
It's not what he's worth, it's what we can give up at this stage of rebuild. I DEFINITELY think he's worth a top 5-10, maybe say top 3 protected then? This draft is just too good, so Detroit can't afford to pass on one of those top 3 picks, even for a former top 3 pick, who is very good.


I get what you're saying but outside of Wright, there isn't one player in the draft that I would say is a sure bet better player then what Dach has shown....it's a gamble outside of Wright.

If Chicago does a complete teardown rebuild, there is not a chance they move Dach or Debrincat obviously unless it's a massive overypay; no way does Chicago go into a crap shoot draft pick for Dach a bonafide entity. I'd even argue Kubalik still being rather young and being a top 20 goal scorer as far as goals per game in the league today.
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Oct. 27 at 12:20 p.m.
#15
Joined: Mar. 2017
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Quoting: Radu47
It's a cogent trade but

Keith De Haan Ceci at a combined 13M 😬

If CHI take back Koskinen it definitely helps

It's already a bad trade for Edmonton and you want to add Koskinen?? That just makes it worse!
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Oct. 27 at 1:22 p.m.
#16
Joined: Aug. 2019
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Likes: 687
If this is a rebuild... why would you trade Dach who is like 20 for a pick?

Edmonton has no use for De Haan. And Edmonton is too close to the cap to even talk about these guys without 50% retention.
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