Sandin? $5M?

Can't see Holl or Kerfoot traded this season. Flames or no team makes that type of trade for Marner. No team is taking on Ritchie and his 2.5m cap. Always interesting that Leaf fans want to trade mid to bottom enders "if the Leafs lose year", and the high cap players seem to absolved of any responsibility.

Marner isn't a problem... trading him really doesn't do anything. Also that Sandin contract..... should I even need to say anything about it.

Here come the Calgary fans to yet again say that they have no interest in Marner. Let alone for Mangiapane

Marner is a HUGE problem.

I mean based on this year, they kinda have a point.

Marner has been dreadful compared to Mangiapane.

Unless Campbell really falters, I don't see him getting anything less than $6M. He's an older goalie that will be looking for his big contract.

lmfao the Leafs fans or majority of them dont WANT Marner WTF would the Flames trade a player that currently playing amazing for an overpaid player struggling ? Sure "hey flames take my overpaid winger ...o yes hes struggling and hasnt got us over the hump but im sure he'll be great for you guys.... yeah just send us a winger that is currently producing great plus a 1st and 2nd.... good luck upgrading your roster / resigning other players"

HEY?? Dallas fan what is Rads value if you guys are projected to miss playoffs? im looking to add more Russians to my roster

Hmmm... I'd want a decent prospect and a 2nd that's conditional on turning into a first if you reach a certain benchmark, like 2nd round in the playoffs? Maybe Protas and that conditional pick?

Why do Flames need Marner? We are getting someone with 2 points in 8 games(0.25 PPG) for Mangiapane who is tied for 2nd in the league in Goals with 7(1 goal per game) with a good contract getting around 5 mill for next year. While Marner would be getting paid around 11 MILL. No thanks.

Mangiapane is a firecracker.
Wouldn't blame Flames one bit if they wanted to keep him.

Pushing the trade aside, it's asinine to compare the value of two players off an 8 game sample size.

Is 26 games a more reasonable sample size? In his last 26 NHL caliber games Mangiapane has 20 goals and 28 points total

I won't question your overall reading comprehension skills, but specific to my post - they're lacking.

I said "pushing the trade aside". In doing so I assumed most reasonable people would understand I meant, in general, comparing two players' overall value based on 8 games was asinine. I'm not sure why you continue to feel the need to argue something I never weighed in on.

Yes, 26 (meaningful?) games is a better sample size than 8. Because 8 games are ridiculous.

Best to only consider 8 game sample sizes when comparing player values!

To be fair Mangiapane's career trajectory is straightly upwards. He's getting better and better. Can't say same about Marner, the guy is 24 but seems he's already peaked. Since the start of the playoffs last year he's been absolute trash in terms of how much bang Leafs are getting for their bucks.

Mangiapane's four times cheaper than Marner, too. Yeah, I probably wouldn't do that move. Not when he's struggling.

With Reilly re-sign somebody make big $ has to be moved.

Oh, you've expanded the sample to 15 games for Marner, that's better.

Although, he did have a pretty decent start to series vs Habs, so better not consider those ones.

What a weird way to attempt to invalidate my point. I am not saying Mangiapane is better than Marner, nor am I saying anything like "Toronto should add." You were originally responding to the the other user stating their production in the last 8 games. You said an 8 game sample size is stupid, all I did was expand on that sample size to provide a better POV.

I, like you, am not talking about the trade proposed. I was just giving you a better sample size to work with as you may not have been aware of Mangiapane's growth towards the end of last season and how that carried over into this year.

You trade Marner to save cap and you don't upgrade at 3c?

If the king of regular season isn't performing during the regular season he's has very little trade value with that contract. I wouldn't touch it if it costs me a player who's worth much more than he's earning, as that has and probably never will apply to Marner.

And by the way. Mangiapane has more goals than Marner counting since 2019-20. That's around 120 games.

Your comparisons are special!

Bring up goals, forget about assists, pretty convenient.

Also, I really don't care about this trade.

I just find it hilarious how strongly early season bias effects fans opinions of players.

Marner (or anyone) has an eight game slump during the middle of the season, no one notices.

He/they slump to start the year, and they've peaked, there worthless, trade value in non-existant, etc, etc

And it usually follows them long after the slump ends.

Quite entertaining, and predictable.

half way through reading that i was going to suggest Protas... Maybe Leason? he looked pretty solid last night but we did play AZ

Now I must question your reading comprehension skills overall. For the second time, you've totally misrepresented a post of mine.

I did not attempt to "invalidate" your point. Quite the opposite, I clearly stated "Yes, 26 (meaningful?) games is a better sample size than 8. Because 8 games are ridiculous." That was your point as you yourself admit that you, like me, are not talking about the trade proposed.

And let me save you time if you wish to continue. Yes, 40 games are better than 26 or 8 and no I don't care about the growth of Mangiapane's offseason workouts.