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Created by: ragger_lord
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 29, 2021
Published: Oct. 29, 2021
Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Räty, Aatu
  2. Komarov, Leo
  3. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  4. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
2.
NYI
  1. Smith, Reilly
  2. Theodore, Shea
  3. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Eichel, Jack
3.
NYI
    BUF
    1. Smith, Reilly
    2. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
    4.
    NYI
    1. Boyd, Travis
    ARI
    1. Pánik, Richard
    2. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
    Buyouts
    • Rick DiPietro: $0
    Buried
    • Thomas Hickey: $1,375,000 ($2,500,000)
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$81,410,021$1,365,854$2,287,500$89,979
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Lee, Anders
    $7,000,000
    LW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Barzal, Mathew
    $7,000,000
    C
    RFA - 2
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    Palmieri, Kyle
    $5,000,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Beauvillier, Anthony
    $4,150,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
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    Nelson, Brock
    $6,000,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Bailey, Josh
    $5,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
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    Martin, Matt
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
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    Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
    $5,000,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Clutterbuck, Cal
    $3,500,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    Johnston, Ross
    $1,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    Cizikas, Casey
    $2,500,000
    C
    UFA - 6
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    Bellows, Kieffer
    $750,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Pelech, Adam
    $5,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 8
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    Pulock, Ryan
    $5,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    Varlamov, Semyon
    $5,000,000
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    UFA - 2
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    Theodore, Shea
    $5,200,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 4
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    Mayfield, Scott
    $1,450,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
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    Sorokin, Ilya
    $4,000,000
    G
    UFA - 3
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    Chara, Zdeno
    $750,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
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    Dobson, Noah
    $894,167
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Parise, Zach
    $750,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    Boychuk, Johnny
    $6,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Aho, Sebastian
    $725,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
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    Greene, Andy
    $750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Oct. 29, 2021 at 7:53 p.m.
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    Its obvious really
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    Oct. 29, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.
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    How could Arizona say no to another 2nd round pick.. Lol
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    Oct. 29, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    How could Arizona say no to another 2nd round pick.. Lol


    They're on a mission to collect em all
    Oct. 29, 2021 at 10:27 p.m.
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    Did not even have to include Cap Friendly legend Keiffer Bellows! #FreeKeiffer
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    Oct. 30, 2021 at 3:27 a.m.
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    Essentially we’re paying a 1st, Räty and Wahlstrom for Theodore. I love Theodore, one of the best d in the league at both ways, good term and only 26. But I’m not sure that’s what we need. I think this team is better off with Wahlstrom and Räty than Theodore. Develop Salo instead.

    We don’t need to capdump Pánik for a 2nd rounder. He’s at 250k in the minors. - and he is a servicable player.
    Oct. 30, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles10
    Essentially we’re paying a 1st, Räty and Wahlstrom for Theodore. I love Theodore, one of the best d in the league at both ways, good term and only 26. But I’m not sure that’s what we need. I think this team is better off with Wahlstrom and Räty than Theodore. Develop Salo instead.

    We don’t need to capdump Pánik for a 2nd rounder. He’s at 250k in the minors. - and he is a servicable player.


    I guess it depends if you want to win this year. I think you guys have a massive hole at 2LD which will need filling. A long term approach would be to keep the prospects but I think you don't win this year without filling that hole.

    I had to dump Panik to make the cap work but I think you could also just do a 22 man roster.
    Oct. 30, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.
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    Its obvious really
    Quoting: ragger_lord
    They're on a mission to collect em all
    Quoting: Isles10
    Essentially we’re paying a 1st, Räty and Wahlstrom for Theodore. I love Theodore, one of the best d in the league at both ways, good term and only 26. But I’m not sure that’s what we need. I think this team is better off with Wahlstrom and Räty than Theodore. Develop Salo instead.
    We don’t need to capdump Pánik for a 2nd rounder. He’s at 250k in the minors. - and he is a servicable player.
    So the Sabres get Räty, Aatu Center prospect
    Komarov, Leo cap equalizer
    Wahlstrom, Oliver RW Prospect
    Smith, Reilly RW
    2022 1st round pick (VGK) and 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
    That my friends is a boat load, makes me think it is too much!
    Räty, and Wahlstrom fit right into Buffalo's rebuild along with the 2 firsts.
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    Oct. 30, 2021 at 6:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: gretzkyghosts
    So the Sabres get Räty, Aatu Center prospect
    Komarov, Leo cap equalizer
    Wahlstrom, Oliver RW Prospect
    Smith, Reilly RW
    2022 1st round pick (VGK) and 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
    That my friends is a boat load, makes me think it is too much!
    Räty, and Wahlstrom fit right into Buffalo's rebuild along with the 2 firsts.


    It is a lot but it's coming from 2 teams instead of one which helps spread it out. Like the Duchene deal.

    Keep in mind these are likely low firsts, Raty was a second round pick, and Smith is essentially a cap equalizer as well.

    It's definitely steep but in line with the 4 first or equivalent Buffalo wanted.
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    Oct. 31, 2021 at 4:37 a.m.
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    It is a lot but it's coming from 2 teams instead of one which helps spread it out. Like the Duchene deal.

    Keep in mind these are likely low firsts, Raty was a second round pick, and Smith is essentially a cap equalizer as well.

    It's definitely steep but in line with the 4 first or equivalent Buffalo wanted.


    I get what you mean, but Reilly Smith is a good player, tough to call him a cap equalizer, even if it’s true. I don’t think Vegas moves him, I believe Dadonov (even if he just got traded to Vegas) or Tuch are much more likely to go before Smith. Räty was a 2nd round pick, but the consensus is that his pure talent is top-10 of that draft, and the Covid year was clearly tough on him. He needs to evolve the talent into product for sure, but I wouldn’t consider him a regular 2nd round pick, even if it’s literally true.

    I would love Theodore, but I don’t believe people outside of Islanders fanbase has grasped just how good Wahlstrom is, extremely good underlying numbers and that matches the eye for sure. He’s a bonafide 30-goal scorer in this league, and I feel very comfortable to say that. Räty could be a good 2C and a 1st is always a 1st.
    Oct. 31, 2021 at 3:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles10
    I get what you mean, but Reilly Smith is a good player, tough to call him a cap equalizer, even if it’s true. I don’t think Vegas moves him, I believe Dadonov (even if he just got traded to Vegas) or Tuch are much more likely to go before Smith. Räty was a 2nd round pick, but the consensus is that his pure talent is top-10 of that draft, and the Covid year was clearly tough on him. He needs to evolve the talent into product for sure, but I wouldn’t consider him a regular 2nd round pick, even if it’s literally true.

    I would love Theodore, but I don’t believe people outside of Islanders fanbase has grasped just how good Wahlstrom is, extremely good underlying numbers and that matches the eye for sure. He’s a bonafide 30-goal scorer in this league, and I feel very comfortable to say that. Räty could be a good 2C and a 1st is always a 1st.


    Fair enough re: Whalstrom, I addmitedly don't know much about him.

    I generally agree regarding Raty, but consensus around GM's is he was a second round talent so that's where I'm placing his value. Even though I believe that is wrong.

    Imo Tuch is worth more than Smith due to contract, age, and also the fact if VGK trades him they lose his LTIR space. Dadanov would make most sense for VGK to move to equalize the cap but I think he has more trade protection than Smith which might make a move to Buffalo harder.
     
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