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Created by: NYR1983
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Realistically, AM34 is walking after the contract, a contract that should have been 8 years but the GM missed on that. I'm sure Leaf fans will want double or triple this package or the old "it starts with _______". Here there is a 1st in a deep draft, Othmann was drafted to be a Kreider replacement so you can envision what he should become, Nils is similar to Sandin, Chytil you probably know enough about, Kravs has the potential and Nemeth is just salary balancing but good 6th man.

The EDM trade isn't supposed to be an accurate evaluation. adjust with picks and nobody prospects as you wish. The goal was to finish a solid 4th checking line.

Spezza and Simmonds are guys that will come in and out for injuries, etc.

Amirov/Robertson need to make the jump and put them on top line for success.

bring on the hate hahaha
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Nov. 1, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
As a said, show a Ranger post...especially for next season, I don't think the trade makes sense at all for the Rangers. " If he walks for free it will be devastating", that's not true. Teams hope to win, and UFA walk every year from teams. So the Leafs are trying to win with Matthews and when he leaves, the Leafs will 11.6m to spend elsewhere. So by this post, you have put it on the Rangers to give up futures, and then Matthews can walk on them too when he's a UFA.

And no you can't move Kreider and Trouba.


I’ll do one shortly. It was more so how I would deal with Toronto then a “how can I get AM34” post. Just used NYR as I know their kids better than most other teams of course. They “hope” to win is accurate, but also unlikely despite the roster on paper.
Nov. 1, 2021 at 5:32 p.m.
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If the leafs can't get out of the first rd this year, I can agree with you, however, atm I can't see it happening


That’s why this is in the off-season
Nov. 1, 2021 at 5:33 p.m.
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That’s why this is in the off-season


Gotta admit Pahal said it best. Might be better to have him walk than a package that doesn't include Laf or Kakko
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Nov. 1, 2021 at 5:35 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
I’ll do one shortly. It was more so how I would deal with Toronto then a “how can I get AM34” post. Just used NYR as I know their kids better than most other teams of course. They “hope” to win is accurate, but also unlikely despite the roster on paper.


By that logic....all UFAs from about 24 to 28 teams will be traded in preseason, because the teams they are on won't be winning the Cup. Gee, I don't know where those three players a team or about 75 UFA get traded to. I guess the 8 other true contending teams, can each add 10 UFAs to their rosters. Gee, what makes you think the Rangers are any more Cup contenders than the Leafs?
Nov. 1, 2021 at 5:39 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
Gotta admit Pahal said it best. Might be better to have him walk than a package that doesn't include Laf or Kakko

Ya, if that’s what you want. JVR and others walked for free so I don’t think it’s unlikely. And if it doesn’t work, the front office will be gone so they won’t care if there’s future pieces remaining. But it could also help you guys become a dead last type of team for lottery picks too so if there’s some legit bedard/wright guys in those drafts after them then it could be great
Nov. 1, 2021 at 5:44 p.m.
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By that logic....all UFAs from about 24 to 28 teams will be traded in preseason, because the teams they are on won't be winning the Cup. Gee, I don't know where those three players a team or about 75 UFA get traded to. I guess the 8 other true contending teams, can each add 10 UFAs to their rosters. Gee, what makes you think the Rangers are any more Cup contenders than the Leafs?


Your response is way off base here. So far off. Never once said any of the verbal vomit you just put out there. I said this is what I would consider doing as their GM knowing that he is gone in 2 years time and they haven’t exactly been a contender when it comes to playoffs. I’d change the team by giving them better depth and more future instead of relying of the 4 guys who have been failing. Is this clear or do you still think I’m saying all teams should trade 10 rfas every season smh
Nov. 1, 2021 at 5:58 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
Your response is way off base here. So far off. Never once said any of the verbal vomit you just put out there. I said this is what I would consider doing as their GM knowing that he is gone in 2 years time and they haven’t exactly been a contender when it comes to playoffs. I’d change the team by giving them better depth and more future instead of relying of the 4 guys who have been failing. Is this clear or do you still think I’m saying all teams should trade 10 rfas every season smh[/quot hen the Leafs in the past few years, so why are they trading for a player who will be a UFA in 2025.23

??? No, I never mentioned RFAs. But you seem to think playoff teams should be trading upcoming 2025 UFAs. Sure the Leafs haven't been successful in the playoffs while Matthews has been a Leaf. But by your logic, why would Rangers who have been even less successful in the past four years would want Matthews who will a UFA in 2025. I still don't see how the Rangers can fit Matthews, Zibs, Fox, Kreider, Trouba, Panarin at maybe 58m and be successful
Nov. 1, 2021 at 6:07 p.m.
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Not teams… the leafs.. this is where you are grossly misunderstanding. And the end result is that they have a more competitive team, depth and future added. Sure they don’t have the guy who scores 50-60 goals but they are a far deeper roster that doesn’t need to depend on him. This post is only LEAF relevant. Do you understand this??
Nov. 1, 2021 at 6:10 p.m.
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I actually love this ACGM for Toronto. I think, even though the EDM trade is good for Toronto, that you can get that Kassian deal for just Holl, and then get like a 3rd from another team for Kerfoot.


No, Oilers pass on this deal let alone the one your proposing
Nov. 1, 2021 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
It gives them better depth not worse. Maybe you haven’t seen them play this year or in the playoffs.

If it starts with Fox, what do you think the trade looks like? 1 for 1 or what’s the package you think is fair?


The fact you even suggest a 1 for 1 is mind blowing
Nov. 1, 2021 at 6:13 p.m.
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The fact you even suggest a 1 for 1 is mind blowing


I’m not suggesting, I’m actually asking him what he thinks it would look like if you read properly. But ironically, many people on this site from other fan bases are actually suggesting 1 for 1 on other posts. So in them same fashion of asking his why he thinks the deal would look like, I’ll give you that same opportunity. What do you think the deal looks like? I know you don’t think it’s 1 for 1, so what’s the package?
Nov. 1, 2021 at 6:55 p.m.
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The fact you even suggest a 1 for 1 is mind blowing


The fact that you don’t think 7 years of a top 3 D man in the league isn’t worth 2 years of a top 3 F in the league is interesting.
Nov. 1, 2021 at 6:58 p.m.
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"unpopular opinion"

There is a sizable contingent of people on this website that think Matthews is walking.
Nov. 1, 2021 at 7:00 p.m.
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"unpopular opinion"

There is a sizable contingent of people on this website that think Matthews is walking.


The unpopular opinion is that he should be the 1 traded. Where as most say Marner/Nylander/Tavares(NMC)

Because he is likely walking at UFA I’m suggesting that the leafs retool using his value rather than letting him walk away
Nov. 1, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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The unpopular opinion is that he should be the 1 traded. Where as most say Marner/Nylander/Tavares(NMC)

Because he is likely walking at UFA I’m suggesting that the leafs retool using his value rather than letting him walk away


Well if Matthews is getting traded it's not for whatever that Rangers trade is.
Nov. 1, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
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Well if Matthews is getting traded it's not for whatever that Rangers trade is.


It doesn’t have to be.. I said in an earlier message that I used our guys as an example since I know them better than the kids in ANA or DET for examples. Equivalent to 5 1sts for 2 years of Matthews
Nov. 1, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
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It doesn’t have to be.. I said in an earlier message that I used our guys as an example since I know them better than the kids in ANA or DET for examples. Equivalent to 5 1sts for 2 years of Matthews


Would just prefer 5 firsts.
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Nov. 1, 2021 at 7:25 p.m.
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Would just prefer 5 firsts.


I think the max is 3/4 years out that you can trade picks so no team could actually do it without making trades first. But 5 picks isn’t a bad way to go. I was just keeping them competitive with young players already being developed here.
 
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