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Value of Murphy and Graves

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Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 3, 2021
Published: Nov. 3, 2021
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Whats the value of these two guys? I have no idea and looking for feed back. Murphy would be great with Sanderson and Graves with JBD next season IMO.
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Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:17 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:24 p.m.
1. Connor Murphy is not for sale.


2. Lower for Ryan Graves


3. Higher on Lawson Crouse because Zaitsev has negative value.

Tampa's 2nd alone should be enough for Crouse.


4. About right with the Pittsburgh trade
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Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
1. Lower for Connor Murphy


2. Lower for Ryan Graves


3. Higher on Lawson Crouse because Zaitsev has negative value.

Tampa's 2nd alone should be enough for Crouse.


4. About right with the Pittsburgh trade


So when you say lower, What would a trade for each look like in your opinion?
Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:20 p.m.
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1. Lower for Connor Murphy


2. Lower for Ryan Graves


3. Higher on Lawson Crouse because Zaitsev has negative value.

Tampa's 2nd alone should be enough for Crouse.


4. About right with the Pittsburgh trade


It would be lower for Murphy if his contract was expiring, but he just got extended for 4 years at a team friendly cap hit, so I would say that is an appropriate price to pay
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Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.
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It would be lower for Murphy if his contract was expiring, but he just got extended for 4 years at a team friendly cap hit, so I would say that is an appropriate price to pay


I forgot that Murphy just re-signed with the Hawks.

Well, in that case, he's not for sale.
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Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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So when you say lower, What would a trade for each look like in your opinion?


When I say lower, I mean that the value for the player that Ottawa is trading for is lower than what is depicted in the post.


Let's use Ryan Graves as an example.

I think Graves is lower in value because you are overpaying for him.


This is what fair value would be for Graves:

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/480865
Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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I forgot that Murphy just re-signed with the Hawks.

Well, in that case, he's not for sale.


eh. I would like to hope not. If the new GM comes in and decides to tear it all down, I have to imagine one of McCabe and Murphy are gone, and McCabe hasnt had a great start to the season
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Nov. 3, 2021 at 6:49 p.m.
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This is what fair value would be for Graves:

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/480865


They'd have to beat the Maltsev/2nd package
That is what Devils paid for him.
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