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Possible trade with LA

Created by: Zzgw95
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 4, 2021
Published: Nov. 4, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Kempe, Adrian
LAK
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,858,116$0$400,000$641,884
Left WingCenterRight Wing
LAK
Kempe, Adrian
$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Semyonov, Kirill
$825,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Biega, Alex
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 4, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
#1
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Edited Nov. 4, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
Kings decline, please stop trying to trade us scraps for guys who are actually doing well playing top-6 minutes, have a great contract, and are an RFA.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
#2
First NY Then LA
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Kerfoot has only one year left on his deal, at almost twice the cap hit of Kempe, who will be under team control for at least two more seasons and probably will be re-signed for longer at less than Kerfoot is making now. Dermott is a perfectly acceptable depth defenseman, but we already have enough of those. No, thanks.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 2:22 p.m.
#3
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Quoting: tryger
Kings decline, please stop trying to trade us scraps for guys who are actually doing well playing top-6 minutes, have a great contract, and are an RFA.


Kerfoot and Kempe have the same amount of points currently.
Kerfoot also has more career points in less career games.

Dermott is part of one of the best d-pairings, and close to the best third pairing, in the league so far this season.

I’m not saying LA does this, nor does Toronto, but calling them “scraps” is far from true.
Nov. 4, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
Kerfoot and Kempe have the same amount of points currently.
Kerfoot also has more career points in less career games.

Dermott is part of one of the best d-pairings, and close to the best third pairing, in the league so far this season.

I’m not saying LA does this, nor does Toronto, but calling them “scraps” is far from true.


Kerfoot is 75% more than the price of Kempe, Kempe has outperformed Kerfoot in goals and points in the last two seasons. Kerfoot is a good bottom-6 player who is currently being overpaid, which is why I consider him scraps. Dermott is as you indicated a bottom-pairing defenseman who they could get for a 4th or 5th rounder if they were so inclined, not really what I would consider the return for who you want as a topline player.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
#5
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Dermott sucks. Stop overvaluing players. And I’m not even a fan of kempe But would rather have him than these guys
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.
#6
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Quoting: tryger
Kerfoot is 75% more than the price of Kempe, Kempe has outperformed Kerfoot in goals and points in the last two seasons. Kerfoot is a good bottom-6 player who is currently being overpaid, which is why I consider him scraps. Dermott is as you indicated a bottom-pairing defenseman who they could get for a 4th or 5th rounder if they were so inclined, not really what I would consider the return for who you want as a topline player.


Trying to convince Leafs fans that Dermott, Kerfoot, and Holl are not even worth half of what they're asking is a lesson in futility my friend. Many of them seem to think the rest of the league is here solely to act as a dumping ground for their poor contracts and bottom-pairing defenseman, while expecting top line players in return.

"Yes, LA would love to help you regain 3 mil in cap space for the next two years and send you the best player in the trade. We need RHD defenders that can take second pairing minutes while Doughty and Walker are out. Oh, you only have a 3rd pairing left-handed defenseman? I guess that's totally fine, despite not meeting our needs at all! Also, we're up to our gills in bottom six forwards so we can't really bring our prospects up as it is. You want to send another bottom six guy? Also, you don't want to send us any picks for all of this? I mean since you're Toronto, why not?" /sarcasm
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 3:17 p.m.
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Quoting: PuckLuck_77
Trying to convince Leafs fans that Dermott, Kerfoot, and Holl are not even worth half of what they're asking is a lesson in futility my friend. Many of them seem to think the rest of the league is here solely to act as a dumping ground for their poor contracts and bottom-pairing defenseman, while expecting top line players in return.

"Yes, LA would love to help you regain 3 mil in cap space for the next two years and send you the best player in the trade. We need RHD defenders that can take second pairing minutes while Doughty and Walker are out. Oh, you only have a 3rd pairing left-handed defenseman? I guess that's totally fine, despite not meeting our needs at all! Also, we're up to our gills in bottom six forwards so we can't really bring our prospects up as it is. You want to send another bottom six guy? Also, you don't want to send us any picks for all of this? I mean since you're Toronto, why not?" /sarcasm


The best part is, it's those three players that are always included in every trade. How are we to believe they value these players when their own ACGMs try to move them in every trade?
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
The best part is, it's those three players that are always included in every trade. How are we to believe they value these players when their own ACGMs try to move them in every trade?


Right?

"Guys, Dermott, Holl and Kerfoot are soooo good!!
...
Ugh Dubas, can we get these darn shmucks off our team?!"
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
#9
First NY Then LA
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Quoting: tryger
The best part is, it's those three players that are always included in every trade. How are we to believe they value these players when their own ACGMs try to move them in every trade?


Quoting: PuckLuck_77
Right?

"Guys, Dermott, Holl and Kerfoot are soooo good!!
...
Ugh Dubas, can we get these darn shmucks off our team?!"


And don't forget Engvall and Mikheyev.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:48 p.m.
#10
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Quoting: KINGS67
Dermott sucks. Stop overvaluing players. And I’m not even a fan of kempe But would rather have him than these guys


Dermott Can sit in the press box like a HOF
Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
And don't forget Engvall and Mikheyev.


hey hey HOF Pierre is obviously the missing piece for a cup run.
 
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