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Tarasenko

Created by: Campabee
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 4, 2021
Published: Nov. 5, 2021
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According to Eklund (so take with a grain of salt) Habs are big on Tarasenko. I don't know what the asking price is or if the rumor is even true. He would be a great add, again though not the peice we NEED but still one I would love to add. So please feel free to post how far off you think I am but remember Suzuki, Caufield and Romanov are likely still off the table. I posted a starting point below that seems decent since both the Blues and Montreal want to remain in win now mode and it would have to be a money in money out deal.
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2022
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2023
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2024
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22$81,500,000$65,837,977$597,561$1,475,000$15,662,023
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
C
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$725,000$725,000
C
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$750,000$750,000
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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$875,000$875,000
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
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$750,000$750,000
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Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:09 p.m.
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maybe Toffoli, chairot and a pick (not 1st) otherwise i would avoid this
Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:10 p.m.
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i think norlinder will be better than romanov
Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:12 p.m.
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Blues would probably accept this in a hurry.
Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Drakin1978
i think norlinder will be better than romanov


I know he will be but I figured a top prospect would have to go back.
Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: BluesBandit
Blues would probably accept this in a hurry.


LOL I kind of thought I was giving up a bit much. Maybe we remove Norlinder and Ylonen and stick with Toffoli + Chiarot + 1st if that is enough
Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.
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Chiarot would almost certainly be of less than zero interest. They probably won't want Norlinder or Ylonen, either. Toffoli would obviously be a piece they'd like, and they'd be interested in Romanov or Guhle or perhaps Brook + a nice pick as the add-on.



Quoting: BluesBandit
Blues would probably accept this in a hurry.


Nah. They'd ask for different pieces to most of this.
Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:19 p.m.
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LOL I kind of thought I was giving up a bit much. Maybe we remove Norlinder and Ylonen and stick with Toffoli + Chiarot + 1st if that is enough


that first might be in the top 5 it should be protected or be a second and keep ylonen.
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Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:24 p.m.
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Chiarot would almost certainly be of less than zero interest. They probably won't want Norlinder or Ylonen, either. Toffoli would obviously be a piece they'd like, and they'd be interested in Romanov or Guhle or perhaps Brook + a nice pick as the add-on.





Nah. They'd ask for different pieces to most of this.


Chiarot or Byron would have to be included to make money work but I would be happy with Toffoli + Chiarot (again to make money work) + Brook + 2023 1st (upgraded from a 2nd for including Chiarot) Or a 2nd if Chiarot is not included.
Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Chiarot or Byron would have to be included to make money work but I would be happy with Toffoli + Chiarot (again to make money work) + Brook + 2023 1st (upgraded from a 2nd for including Chiarot) Or a 2nd if Chiarot is not included.



Okay, well the Blues are not in a position to add cap through a Tarasenko trade, so Chiarot is out for two reasons now. I can think of solutions, but you probably won't like them.

1- Toffoli, Romanov & Byron w/ a small amount of retention (like 750K-1M maybe)

2- Toffoli, Guhle, Armia w/ similar retention, and the Blues toss over a 3rd and/or B-ish prospect (maybe Alexandrov ?)
Nov. 5, 2021 at 5:53 p.m.
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Why does Taresenko get this given the Eichel return?

If its me in the position MTL is in with such Weak Defense
It makes no sense to trade 1/2 players capable of 20 minutes plus to acquire Taresenko
It says we're rebuilding but you're adding an Aging Veteran with with 2 years left at 7m for a playoff run?

Its just contradictory without adding a D capable of 20-25 Minutes Chiarot can play
Really Vlad just doesnt make sense for us
Not unless Bozak is coming with him at the very least to help our Forwards with Possesion time
Even still that only makes sense if Chiarot stays otherwise we're saying we're rebuilding

People crap on Chiarot but he's a top level #3-4 D capable of 20-23 minutes comfortably but up to 25 minutes if forced.
His effort on PK is the only reason our PK is 11th and 29th like our PP
He was a huge part of our PK Success in the playoffs and without Weber its just him and Petry.
Romanov is incable , Kulak sucks on PK and is a PP guy , Wideman is good enough on a non contending team on PK
Eddy getting back will help boost us back in the top 10 i think

What we really need is another Niku to offer something on PP cheap prerbly on our LD
I think thats why Norlinders being conditioned here rather then sent back to Europe.
Our PP is that bad and the reason is our only 2 threats on the back end are Petry and Niku
When it was Petry/Weber having a Weak LD on PP was fine enough and all contributed by comittee to help
Now we need even a Shayne Gostisbhere to play 3rd pair who's good on PP and can play RD comfortably.

If you got Ghost , Vlad and Bozak we'd fix the holes needed to surive (doesnt have to be them but a PP LD , Faceoff Center bottom 6 and Vlad obviously)
Otherwise were just a rebuilding to paying to sell Taresenko jerseys and Golf Tee's
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Nov. 5, 2021 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Okay, well the Blues are not in a position to add cap through a Tarasenko trade, so Chiarot is out for two reasons now. I can think of solutions, but you probably won't like them.

1- Toffoli, Romanov & Byron w/ a small amount of retention (like 750K-1M maybe)

2- Toffoli, Guhle, Armia w/ similar retention, and the Blues toss over a 3rd and/or B-ish prospect (maybe Alexandrov ?)


Since the retention on the Byron trade is basically Romy's salary why not just sub Romy for 2 2nds or the 2023 1st top 10 protected.

I don't hate the second trade but I don't like losing Guhle either so let's sub him with say 2nd + Tuch or Brook
Nov. 5, 2021 at 6:13 p.m.
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seems like overkill
Nov. 5, 2021 at 6:15 p.m.
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i feel we are moving towards a rebuild not looking for a tarasenko type player unless we are trying to save the season. I would embrace the fall and hope for Shane
Nov. 5, 2021 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Since the retention on the Byron trade is basically Romy's salary why not just sub Romy for 2 2nds or the 2023 1st top 10 protected.

I don't hate the second trade but I don't like losing Guhle either so let's sub him with say 2nd + Tuch or Brook


Heh. Yeah, I'm guessing those changes aren't going to fly with Army. Taking on Byron is a big dump. At least Armia provides actually usefulness, which is why the add-on is less painful.
Nov. 5, 2021 at 6:19 p.m.
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The last thing the Habs need is Tarsenko. The Habs need to trade away talent, not add more.

Whats the goal here exactly? To finish 27th instead of 30th?

Tarasenko is a great add to a playoff team. Not a lottery team.
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Nov. 5, 2021 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
The last thing the Habs need is Tarsenko. The Habs need to trade away talent, not add more.

Whats the goal here exactly? To finish 27th instead of 30th?

Tarasenko is a great add to a playoff team. Not a lottery team.


Not disagreeing with you there Marco just created a thread based on a rumor from Eklund lol. Plus it is a move I could totally see MB making in desperation.
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Nov. 5, 2021 at 6:43 p.m.
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Not a habs fan but this is a massive overpay
Nov. 5, 2021 at 7:35 p.m.
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Not disagreeing with you there Marco just created a thread based on a rumor from Eklund lol. Plus it is a move I could totally see MB making in desperation.


MB overpays UFA's
He doesnt overpay in Trade's

IF anything he's always been guilty of being Cheap at the TDL in his acquisitions
Imagine if he closed the Dvorak deal last TDL and how that could have helped put us over.
He was a finalist in the Savard sweepstakes and TBL got him winning a cup with that depth.

Issues always been MB doesnt trade 1st round picks
He Loses them after he drafts them via Trade , Offer Sheet or them just busting
But he is unwilling to trade 1st round draft picks

Its why its always been clear to me he's an Archetect not a Builder
He's more President and CEO type then GM as he lacks the Nuts to make big deals
All his Trades that matter are either at the Draft or in the summer outside the TDL he rarely makes moves once the season starts.
I think Pacioretty is the most recent exception but beyond that you're going back to Bourque or Moen deals

I believe Roy is to much of a hot head for GM
Vincent Damphousse was short listed with Roy and i think makes a ton of sense
Damphousse was a Favorite for Marc Bergavins job before he got it but Pulled himself out of the running after his Wife Assaulted him then tried Pressing charges only to land herself in legal trouble years later.
With that all out of the way it makes sense they Circle back to their Original and Desired Candidate

I think Vinny has the Cool head to make it work out
I also feel unlike Marc Bergavin he'll lean more on his Friend and Molsons advisor Mr.Savard.
Savard for all the grief he gets brought us the 1986 and 1993 cups because he wasnt afraid to make future changing trades.
(most notably Chelios of Denis Savard who in his defense the first 2 playoff runs before the cup was a catalyst helping the team grow so a young Damphousse could help put them over for another Cup in 1993)
Nov. 5, 2021 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Not disagreeing with you there Marco just created a thread based on a rumor from Eklund lol. Plus it is a move I could totally see MB making in desperation.


Eklund needs to be taken with a whole Dead sea of salt.
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Nov. 5, 2021 at 9:03 p.m.
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Eklund needs to be taken with a whole Dead sea of salt.


has eklund ever been right
Nov. 5, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.
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has eklund ever been right


Only rarely
 
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