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Please make this happen Stevie I beg you

Created by: RealHavocc
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 7, 2021
Published: Nov. 7, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
Trades
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DET
  1. Dermott, Travis
TOR
  1. Stecher, Troy
  2. 2022 4th round pick (VGK)
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I absolutely love Stecher but we don’t seem to be using him, so we might as well try to use him to benefit the team
Buyouts
  • Frans Nielsen: $4,250,000
  • Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Leddy: $2,750,000 (50%)
  • Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
  • Vladislav Namestnikov: $1,000,000 (50%)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$68,904,723$0$4,518,750$12,595,277
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Bertuzzi, Tyler
$4,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C
UFA - 2
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Raymond, Lucas
$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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Zadina, Filip
$894,167
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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Suter, Pius
$3,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Fabbri, Robby
$2,950,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Namestnikov, Vladislav
$1,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
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Veleno, Joseph
$894,167
C
RFA - 2
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Erne, Adam
$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Smith, Givani
$750,000
LW
RFA - 2
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Rasmussen, Michael
$1,460,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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Gagner, Sam
$850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
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Seider, Moritz
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
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Nedeljkovic, Alex
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Leddy, Nick
$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Hronek, Filip
$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 3
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Greiss, Thomas
$3,600,000
G
UFA - 1
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DeKeyser, Danny
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Lindström, Gustav
$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Staal, Marc
$2,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Vrána, Jakub
$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 3
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Oesterle, Jordan
$1,350,000
LD/RD
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Stephens, Mitchell
$737,500
C
RFA - 1

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Nov. 7, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.
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Why would TO do this? Dermott is better
Nov. 7, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Why would TO do this? Dermott is better


Deal could be different, Stecher is likely the main piece involved. Dermott and Stecher are very similarly skilled players in my eyes
Nov. 7, 2021 at 6:03 p.m.
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Deal could be different, Stecher is likely the main piece involved. Dermott and Stecher are very similarly skilled players in my eyes


Apart from Stecher not being as good they are similar yes. They both play hockey and are defenceman, I guess that's pretty close.
Nov. 7, 2021 at 6:08 p.m.
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I wanted to try a dermott for Stetcher trade; seems like a near perfect needs match, but I didn’t want to listen(read) Tor fans talk about how Dermot is the next coming of Bobby Hull and that package isn’t enough and yaddi yaddi... it’s just tiring.
Nov. 7, 2021 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Why would TO do this? Dermott is better


if detroit retains half salary on stecher, he could be a cheaper depth option than what they have right now, and give them a little more flexibility elsewhere in the lineup and at the trade deadline.
Nov. 7, 2021 at 7:05 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
if detroit retains half salary on stecher, he could be a cheaper depth option than what they have right now, and give them a little more flexibility elsewhere in the lineup and at the trade deadline.


By downgrading the position?
Nov. 7, 2021 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
By downgrading the position?


if they feel that liljegren can step in and play as the 6D consistently, a downgrade at the 7D spot might be worth it if they can find an upgrade on the LW at the TDL with the increased cap space.
Nov. 7, 2021 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Why would TO do this? Dermott is better


Has Dermott played on any national teams like Stretcher?
I’m a Leafs fan but you think the Leafs players are way better than they are
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Nov. 7, 2021 at 8:38 p.m.
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Why, just WHY?! I do not want Dermott for free... He's Brett Lebda 2.0. Makes horrible decisions and is a massive defensive liability. Hard pass.

Shall I remind everyone?


This is NOT an isolated incident either. It's Dermott summed up, in one clip.
Nov. 7, 2021 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
if they feel that liljegren can step in and play as the 6D consistently, a downgrade at the 7D spot might be worth it if they can find an upgrade on the LW at the TDL with the increased cap space.


Liljegren is already showing hes a player. So has Dermott and Holl is also a good player. They don't need Stecher
Nov. 7, 2021 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs09
Has Dermott played on any national teams like Stretcher?
I’m a Leafs fan but you think the Leafs players are way better than they are


Justin Pogge also played on a national team. That doesn't always mean anything.
Nov. 7, 2021 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Liljegren is already showing hes a player. So has Dermott and Holl is also a good player. They don't need Stecher


they don't need him. but if trading dermott and getting him at 50% retained means the leafs can make a bigger splash on a LW at the TDL with the increased cap space, it could be worth it.
Nov. 8, 2021 at 6:39 a.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
they don't need him. but if trading dermott and getting him at 50% retained means the leafs can make a bigger splash on a LW at the TDL with the increased cap space, it could be worth it.


What bigger splash? Is a handful of money going to mean they get a big time LW? No. They don't have the cap space and having defensive depth is going to be more important than another middle 6 LW
Nov. 8, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Justin Pogge also played on a national team. That doesn't always mean anything.


Not World Junior, there are lots of prospects who played that did not make it in that. I'm talking last years World Championships.
Do you think Dermott was even remotely close to Canada's World Champiosnhip list?
Nov. 8, 2021 at 12:33 p.m.
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Not World Junior, there are lots of prospects who played that did not make it in that. I'm talking last years World Championships.
Do you think Dermott was even remotely close to Canada's World Champiosnhip list?


Stetcher isn't special.
Nov. 8, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Stetcher isn't special.


NO he's not, but he would be an upgrade from Dermott.
I do think Dermott is playing better this year with a more expanded role, but Stretcher is still better.
Nov. 8, 2021 at 1:28 p.m.
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NO he's not, but he would be an upgrade from Dermott.
I do think Dermott is playing better this year with a more expanded role, but Stretcher is still better.


I don't think so. Stetcher just doesn't offer anything Dermott doesn't already have.
Nov. 8, 2021 at 2:20 p.m.
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I don't think so. Stetcher just doesn't offer anything Dermott doesn't already have.


Guess Hockey Canada think elsewise lol.
I can't beileve you have not been hired by an NHL team yet on your assesment of players.
Nov. 8, 2021 at 6:13 p.m.
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Guess Hockey Canada think elsewise lol.
I can't beileve you have not been hired by an NHL team yet on your assesment of players.


Its a lateral move. Stecher has been passed over by a lot of teams a lot of times. He's a good 6/7 defenceman. I just don't see the need to send assets to get him when we already have as good or better options internally.
 
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