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Dahlin

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Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 9, 2021
Published: Nov. 9, 2021
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What former top 3 pick can Dahlin get swapped for? It’s just not working on BUF.
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Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:24 a.m.
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.....Dylan Strome....
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:25 a.m.
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.....Dylan Strome....


Too old. Looking at 2017-2020 draft years.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
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the Habs could be interested in a PMD - what are your needs?

Pretty much only Suzuki is untouchable, but you'll have to bargain to get Caufield.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
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Hawks pass.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
Too old. Looking at 2017-2020 draft years.


awesome face My idea fit your description! awesome face
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:29 a.m.
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the Habs could be interested in a PMD - what are your needs?

Pretty much only Suzuki is untouchable, but you'll have to bargain to get Caufield.


Dahlin for Canfield and a cap dump seems fair TBH. Not sure who MTL fans as cap dump worthy.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:32 a.m.
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
Dahlin for Canfield and a cap dump seems fair TBH. Not sure who MTL fans as cap dump worthy.


I would try to make a bigger trade actually.

1 for 1 is too scary to me, and Caufield still has plenty of unexplored potential - and we have plenty of LHD prospect already.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:33 a.m.
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Dahlin for Canfield and a cap dump seems fair TBH. Not sure who MTL fans as cap dump worthy.


Not fair at all why do people undervalue Dahlin so much?
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Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:37 a.m.
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Sabres easily decline. Dahlin untouchable, he's only 21 and he's fine. I bet Adams won't trade him, it doesn't even make any sense.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:38 a.m.
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Not fair at all why do people undervalue Dahlin so much?


he hasn’t been good at all really since his rookie season. a lot of other sabres seem to have taken steps forward under granato but i just don’t see it with dahlin right now. buffalo certainly won’t trade him unless it’s for a big return, but i’m just not sure what the player’s value is.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:40 a.m.
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No reason to trade dahlin. He obviously has some defensive deficiencies, but his biggest problem has been his pairing this year. He has been on his offside with Will Butcher lmao.. not a recipe for success
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Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:44 a.m.
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he hasn’t been good at all really since his rookie season. a lot of other sabres seem to have taken steps forward under granato but i just don’t see it with dahlin right now. buffalo certainly won’t trade him unless it’s for a big return, but i’m just not sure what the player’s value is.


This is just nonsense, he was much better under Granato than under Krueger, the metrics confirm this, and his defensive play has improved this season, aside from a couple of mistakes in individual games. Yesterday he was very good in defense paired with Pysyk, Butcher is just too bad and pulled them down. Adams should not and will not trade Dahlin, that would be foolish.
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Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:44 a.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
he hasn’t been good at all really since his rookie season. a lot of other sabres seem to have taken steps forward under granato but i just don’t see it with dahlin right now. buffalo certainly won’t trade him unless it’s for a big return, but i’m just not sure what the player’s value is.


His second season he was on pace for 65-70 points. Then he had 1 down year under the worst coach in the NHL and now he's playing out of position because we don't have a RD to play with him or his RD is Butcher who is horrible.
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Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:47 a.m.
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His second season he was on pace for 65-70 points. Then he had 1 down year under the worst coach in the NHL and now he's playing out of position because we don't have a RD to play with him or his RD is Butcher who is horrible.


Not the Butcher anymore. Granato said yesterday after the game that Dahlin and Pysyk looked great together, we probably won't see Dahlin paired with the terrible Butcher again.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:49 a.m.
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Enough of these irrelevant topics, Dahlin is not going anywhere. He had a good first season in the NHL, and then Krueger happened, after Krueger he is fine again. He is 21 and he is a defender, look where all these guys were at his age.

Where recent Norris trophy winners were in their 20s:

Josi: Playing minors for Milwaukee, three years before his first season with 40 points.

Giordano: Playing as an opponent for Owen Sound Attack in the OHL, 8 years before his first season with 40 points.

Hedman: Having a 26-point season for the Lightning, three years before his first 40-point season.

Burns: Scored 16 points as a rookie in Wild two years before his first season with 40 points.

Doughty: Scored 59 points as 2nd year king

Karlsson: 45 points and -30 as a year 2 senator

Keith: Playing minors with Norfolk, 5 years before his first season with 40 points.

Subban: Minor game with Hamilton, 4 years before his first season with 40 points.

Lidstrom: Playing in Sweden, a year before his 60-point rookie season in Detroit.

Chara: Time split between islanders and minors, 6 years before his first season with 40 points
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.
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Clearly not a Sabre fan if you think Dahlin isnt working.
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Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:55 a.m.
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Not the Butcher anymore. Granato said yesterday after the game that Dahlin and Pysyk looked great together, we probably won't see Dahlin paired with the terrible Butcher again.


After how Wolanin looked last night I hope butcher doesn't see NHL action again this year. Send him down and if he gets claimed well that would be a mercy lmao.
Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:56 a.m.
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Enough of these irrelevant topics, Dahlin is not going anywhere. He had a good first season in the NHL, and then Krueger happened, after Krueger he is fine again. He is 21 and he is a defender, look where all these guys were at his age.

Where recent Norris trophy winners were in their 20s:

Josi: Playing minors for Milwaukee, three years before his first season with 40 points.

Giordano: Playing as an opponent for Owen Sound Attack in the OHL, 8 years before his first season with 40 points.

Hedman: Having a 26-point season for the Lightning, three years before his first 40-point season.

Burns: Scored 16 points as a rookie in Wild two years before his first season with 40 points.

Doughty: Scored 59 points as 2nd year king

Karlsson: 45 points and -30 as a year 2 senator

Keith: Playing minors with Norfolk, 5 years before his first season with 40 points.

Subban: Minor game with Hamilton, 4 years before his first season with 40 points.

Lidstrom: Playing in Sweden, a year before his 60-point rookie season in Detroit.

Chara: Time split between islanders and minors, 6 years before his first season with 40 points


Lets remember Adam Fox's rookie season he was the same age as Dahlin now.
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Nov. 9, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Enough of these irrelevant topics, Dahlin is not going anywhere. He had a good first season in the NHL, and then Krueger happened, after Krueger he is fine again. He is 21 and he is a defender, look where all these guys were at his age.

Where recent Norris trophy winners were in their 20s:

Josi: Playing minors for Milwaukee, three years before his first season with 40 points.

Giordano: Playing as an opponent for Owen Sound Attack in the OHL, 8 years before his first season with 40 points.

Hedman: Having a 26-point season for the Lightning, three years before his first 40-point season.

Burns: Scored 16 points as a rookie in Wild two years before his first season with 40 points.

Doughty: Scored 59 points as 2nd year king

Karlsson: 45 points and -30 as a year 2 senator

Keith: Playing minors with Norfolk, 5 years before his first season with 40 points.

Subban: Minor game with Hamilton, 4 years before his first season with 40 points.

Lidstrom: Playing in Sweden, a year before his 60-point rookie season in Detroit.

Chara: Time split between islanders and minors, 6 years before his first season with 40 points


Not to mention all D men just take longer to develop their play on average
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Lets remember Adam Fox's rookie season he was the same age as Dahlin now.


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Not to mention all D men just take longer to develop their play on average


Certainly dozens of other examples can be cited.

- Maybe Dahlin was drafted into a great team early in his career with a ton of talent? No.

- Maybe he had great coaches throughout his time in the NHL? Also no.

- Maybe he had a good experienced veteran mentor or good defensive partners? Again, no.

18-year-old defender is already having a hard time making his debut and playing in the top 4 in the NHL, and if you take all the terrible conditions and the idiot and charlatan Krugeer, it is not surprising that his development was not linear. Under Granato, he improved in defense, he is still good at making passes and breakouts, he is still dangerous in attack, he created dozens of chances this season for our strikers and now he would go at a PPG pace if they scored these chances. It is not his fault that Bjork, Skinner and other forwards cannot finishing after he creates these chances for them. Come on people, he's fine, and it will only improve and get more points when the marginal players in the lineup are replaced by Olofsson, Mitts, Tuch, Quinn, Peterka and Krebs.
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Nov. 9, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.
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Certainly dozens of other examples can be cited.

- Maybe Dahlin was drafted into a great team early in his career with a ton of talent? No.

- Maybe he had great coaches throughout his time in the NHL? Also no.

- Maybe he had a good experienced veteran mentor or good defensive partners? Again, no.

18-year-old defender is already having a hard time making his debut and playing in the top 4 in the NHL, and if you take all the terrible conditions and the idiot and charlatan Krugeer, it is not surprising that his development was not linear. Under Granato, he improved in defense, he is still good at making passes and breakouts, he is still dangerous in attack, he created dozens of chances this season for our strikers and now he would go at a PPG pace if they scored these chances. It is not his fault that Bjork, Skinner and other forwards cannot finishing after he creates these chances for them. Come on people, he's fine, and it will only improve and get more points when the marginal players in the lineup are replaced by Olofsson, Mitts, Tuch, Quinn, Peterka and Krebs.


Remeber the good ole days when Dahlin would make amazing breakout passes to Eichel and Ollofson, Reinhart and they would finish them lol
Nov. 9, 2021 at 2:26 p.m.
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No reason to trade dahlin. He obviously has some defensive deficiencies, but his biggest problem has been his pairing this year. He has been on his offside with Will Butcher lmao.. not a recipe for success


You can swap out Dahlin with Ristolainen in all of these comments and you are now in a time portal to 2016 hahahaha
Nov. 9, 2021 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
You can swap out Dahlin with Ristolainen in all of these comments and you are now in a time portal to 2016 hahahaha


Ristolainen has never had such a high hockey IQ, never had such a good pass, Risto literally has a lumberjack's hands, he never had such an offensive potential, it's ridiculous to compare them.
Nov. 10, 2021 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
You can swap out Dahlin with Ristolainen in all of these comments and you are now in a time portal to 2016 hahahaha


And now you know how bad management has been. But seriously, they swapped him with psysk for one game and his underlying numbers were good for that game.
Young defensemen need to have appropriate partners
 
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