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Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 10, 2021
Published: Nov. 10, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Stützle, Tim
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
2.
CGY
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. Brown, Joshua
  3. 2022 1st round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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26$81,500,000$73,873,257$0$2,022,500$7,626,743
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$8,330,674$8,330,674
LW
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$747,500$747,500 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
LW
RFA - 1
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$749,250$749,250
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$818,333$818,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
C
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$726,667$726,667
LW
RFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$787,500$787,500
G
UFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 2

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:39 p.m.
#1
Daddy
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Ottawa is not the team adding in a Bertuzzi-Stutzle deal, Bert has had a terrific start but Stutzle isn't available and only 1.5 years guaranteed years of Bertuzzi just doesn't make sense for the sens. Connor Brown + a 1st is a decent start to getting Tkachuk, more pieces needed though.
Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:41 p.m.
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Gee, I see you are a Red Wing and Ottawa fan. But you really must be a Red Wing if you think Bertuzzi is worth so much...especially now just two years of Bert till UFA.
Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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Flames decline
Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:58 p.m.
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DET trade:

OTT counters CBrown + 2nd for Raymond
Nov. 11, 2021 at 6:08 a.m.
#5
arky
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A. Bertuzzi can not travel to Canada
B. Stutzle is cost controlled and much younger than Bertuzzii.

This trade makes no sense from a Ottawa"s view point.
Nov. 11, 2021 at 10:58 a.m.
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Unless that 1st is no doubt Shane Wright it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the Flames. Only deal for a Tkachuk between these two teams would involve the other Tkachuk.
Nov. 11, 2021 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: AustonMatthews3443
Connor Brown + a 1st is a decent start to getting Tkachuk, more pieces needed though.


Decent start? I mean, Connor Brown is an extremely valuable player on his own and he is on a sweetheart contract. Matthew Tkachuk has 75 EVP in 137 GP since 2019-20, Connor Brown has 68 EVP in 138 GP. Tkachuk starts most of his shifts in the offensive zone (60/40) while Brown is heavily used as a defensive forward and starts in the D zone (65/35)

http://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20192020&seasonTo=20212022&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evPoints&page=1&pageSize=50

Tkachuk is the biggest profile player but he will start making 9.0+ M$ next year... Connor Brown has a 3.6 AAV and is owed 4.0 M$ and is a bit less than 4 years older

So yes I would certainly "sacrifice" Brown to get Tkachuk but hold on... have you looked at the top of the 2022 draft?

Shane Wright, Ivan Miroshnichenko, Brad Lambert, Matthew Savoie, Simon Nemec, Joakim Kemell, David Jiricek, Conor Geekie, etc... Sens are pretty much guaranteed to get another high profile player (really can't see them get out of the bottom-10)


So Connor Brown + a lottery pick for a guy that will make even more than his brother is more than a "decent start". It's actually something the Sens would really have to think about carefully before doing

I think I'd rather take my chances with that 1st round pick and a very valuable player that will cost about 50% to extend
Nov. 11, 2021 at 1:59 p.m.
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Anti-vaxxers are not worth anything anyway sarcasm

Quoting: mikearky
A. Bertuzzi can not travel to Canada
B. Stutzle is cost controlled and much younger than Bertuzzii.

This trade makes no sense from a Ottawa"s view point.


Stutzle is almost 7 years younger. He's a big part of the Sens future. Bertuzzi would fit more in the veteran group with Connor Brown... but would he really be a player the Sens target? They certainly wouldn't let go Stutzle for him that's for sure, even if Dorion is one of the worst GMs (IMO)

Adding a 2nd round pick is quite funny

Quoting: yycofred
Unless that 1st is no doubt Shane Wright it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the Flames. Only deal for a Tkachuk between these two teams would involve the other Tkachuk.


There's going to be several extremely valuable players from that draft. Think about the 2020 first round but even better.

Don't think we'll see many if any 2022 first round picks traded until the draft, unless it's from a top contender
 
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