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Samsonov Trade

Created by: TM11
Team: 2021-22 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 12, 2021
Published: Nov. 12, 2021
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Trades
WSH
  1. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Samsonov, Ilya
  2. 2022 4th round pick (WSH)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$69,443,761$472,927$165,000$12,056,239
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,166,667$5,166,667
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$9,200,000$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$2,415,000$2,415,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$791,667$791,667 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$716,667$716,667
G
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Nov. 12, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.
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Ehats Washington's incentive here?
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Nov. 12, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ehats Washington's incentive here?


Not sure if that's a spelling mistake, but it's perfect! squinty smile
Nov. 12, 2021 at 2:46 p.m.
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Not sure if that's a spelling mistake, but it's perfect! squinty smile


It is, the "w" is right next to the "e"

I'll re-ask though, whats Washington's incentive here?
Nov. 12, 2021 at 2:47 p.m.
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why would WSH do this? For a late 1st rd pick? Awful
Nov. 12, 2021 at 2:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
It is, the "w" is right next to the "e"

I'll re-ask though, whats Washington's incentive here?

Eh what? They have none!
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Nov. 12, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.
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Eh what? They have none!


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Nov. 12, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
It is, the "w" is right next to the "e"

I'll re-ask though, whats Washington's incentive here?


Quoting: hazard
why would WSH do this? For a late 1st rd pick? Awful


You both clearly haven't watch him play at all recently? If Washington could get a 1st for Sammy i would do that no questions asked. V V is the better goalie and based off yesterday we can find a quality back up in the minors. the incentive would be to maximize the return on a diminishing player.

Sammy 5 starts this year

.883s%
shutout (maybe the worst team in the NHL)
.865s%
.929s% (great game) maybe you are overreacting to one good game?
.889 s%

Last year
2.69 gga .902s%

Playoff numbers
2.99gga .899s%
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Nov. 12, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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You both clearly haven't watch him play at all recently? If Washington could get a 1st for Sammy i would do that no questions asked. V V is the better goalie and based off yesterday we can find a quality back up in the minors. the incentive would be to maximize the return on a diminishing player.

Sammy 5 starts this year

.883s%
shutout (maybe the worst team in the NHL)
.865s%
.929s% (great game) maybe you are overreacting to one good game?
.889 s%

Last year
2.69 gga .902s%

Playoff numbers
2.99gga .899s%


Reminds me of Markstrom in Florida, guys 24 and allowed to have a bad start to the year
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Nov. 12, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
You both clearly haven't watch him play at all recently? If Washington could get a 1st for Sammy i would do that no questions asked. V V is the better goalie and based off yesterday we can find a quality back up in the minors. the incentive would be to maximize the return on a diminishing player.

Sammy 5 starts this year

.883s%
shutout (maybe the worst team in the NHL)
.865s%
.929s% (great game) maybe you are overreacting to one good game?
.889 s%

Last year
2.69 gga .902s%

Playoff numbers
2.99gga .899s%


You think its better to give up on him? Now? In the middle of the season? Goaltenders are voodoo man, this seems more of an offseason move
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Nov. 12, 2021 at 3:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Reminds me of Markstrom in Florida, guys 24 and allowed to have a bad start to the year


He reminds me of a Semin... he's completely disengaged more often than not. He gives effort when and only when he wants. If we trade him and he plays amazing we still get great value and maybe thats the wake up call he needs but he currently is playing terrible and i would have him 2-3 on my Capitals goalie depth chart... so clearly getting a 1st for a VERY VERY average to below average goalie would be a wet dream
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Nov. 12, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
You think its better to give up on him? Now? In the middle of the season? Goaltenders are voodoo man, this seems more of an offseason move


This would be a deadline trade unless EDM starts to fall off. However if they keep rolling then you know they have to push for a goalie option, however, I would see one of the VET goalies getting moved as well.
Samsonov has had a slow start but I would say still a better goalie than what they have and he also does have playoff experience, a 1st at the Deadline would be a good move.

I also want to play devil's advocate here, I still believe that if both teams keep playing as they have that Fleury end up going to EDM. This is likely his last season he even said it on 32 thoughts podcast. He would want to go out on top, so he would agree to it, as well Chicago could probably get a first and/or a prospect they need out of it in a very dead draft.
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Nov. 12, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
You think its better to give up on him? Now? In the middle of the season? Goaltenders are voodoo man, this seems more of an offseason move


I think we have other goalies that are hungry and willing to do what it takes to win. Sammy seems like a Semin 2.0 and plays when he feels like it.... you can see the inconsistencies in his numbers. I think he has a lot of talent but the problem is he doesnt care.... Ill take V V 10/10 times + that kid that started yesterday vs the Wings could be a Crawford 2.0
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