Quoting: Campabee
Living in eastern Canada, I don't get to see many Avs games TBH. Because of that I have to rely on Avs fans opinions of their players, since social media (Twitter, FB and even CF) is the only communication/interaction anyone can have online this all I have to go on. As for Norris considerations, they are heavily driven by point production and not really based on defensive ability. I wasn't saying that Girard wasn't good or that he wouldn't be our defacto 1LD cause he is good and would be but like the other guy said he is more of a 2LD on contending teams, which right now would be a 1LD on our team LOL. Toffoli is also a bit under rated on this site he consistently scores 20+ goals and is capable of hitting 30 goals (he did in L.A. and was on pace to do so last season) . He would fetch a 1st + 2nd or 3rd at the deadline, compare this to Girard who I see netting a 1st + 2nd and the values are pretty even. Of course Girard is on a good contract for longer but Toffoli's deal is pretty sweet as well and for a contending team like the Avs looking for scoring help the need outweighs the benefit of having Girard on the 3rd pairing or on his off side. The fact that Toffoli is also a natural RW increases the value to Colorado as he would easily be the Avs 2nd best RW. Is it a move that puts the Avs over the top? No but it gets them a lot closer than the current roster does.
Quoting: Campabee
Problem is with Girard is he I too soft defensively, like Mete he gets pushed around his own end too much. His transition play and zone exits are good but he also has a lot of turnovers due to his transition style creating a lot of odd man rushes against. For a team like the Habs who already lead the league over the last 2 seasons for odd man rushes against that is a huge liability. We need a sound 2 way d man not an offensive minded one who gets pushed around and makes poor choices under pressure.
Except metrics don’t say that, you do. You don’t like him because he is short. That’s your prerogative, but to use he is soft and he has turnovers on exits AND the absolute insistence to compare him to a player that can’t hold his jock is a joke. Get it you’re a homer everybody is, but bruh Mete to Girard is like saying MacDermid is going to be as good as Chara was. I mean points, toi, CF, CA, Offense, transition ffs a players card was provided. Just roll with I would do this and don’t go about making up facts and player comparisons that
Quoting: Campabee
Living in eastern Canada, I don't get to see many Avs games TBH. Because of that I have to rely on Avs fans opinions of their players, since social media (Twitter, FB and even CF) is the only communication/interaction anyone can have online this all I have to go on. As for Norris considerations, they are heavily driven by point production and not really based on defensive ability. I wasn't saying that Girard wasn't good or that he wouldn't be our defacto 1LD cause he is good and would be but like the other guy said he is more of a 2LD on contending teams, which right now would be a 1LD on our team LOL. Toffoli is also a bit under rated on this site he consistently scores 20+ goals and is capable of hitting 30 goals (he did in L.A. and was on pace to do so last season) . He would fetch a 1st + 2nd or 3rd at the deadline, compare this to Girard who I see netting a 1st + 2nd and the values are pretty even. Of course Girard is on a good contract for longer but Toffoli's deal is pretty sweet as well and for a contending team like the Avs looking for scoring help the need outweighs the benefit of having Girard on the 3rd pairing or on his off side. The fact that Toffoli is also a natural RW increases the value to Colorado as he would easily be the Avs 2nd best RW. Is it a move that puts the Avs over the top? No but it gets them a lot closer than the current roster does.
Except he wouldn’t. Burakovsky is significantly better on the right and is significantly more dynamic than Toffoli. You seem to refuse several key factors or ignore them. Girard is good defensively, great with his stick, great positionally like all smaller players he has size struggles but significantly less than most because he is active with his stick and skates and proactively works to avoid those situations. He produces offense while NOT getting PP1 time, he eats 20+ minutes, and he is signed team friendly for the entirety of his prime years on a team friendly deal. How is that deal going to look in 2 years when he is 25? Even better. There is a significant component to any team wanting to acquire Girard acknowledging he is 1) a top pairing dman because he is he just happens to play in COL 2) his contract is found gold he is set and forget for a team for half a decade 3) COL isn’t going to make a trade that doesn’t benefit them long and short term. 4) I keep saying it Girard is better than Jones, yeah CHIC over paid but don’t think for a minute Sakic isn’t taking that stance. Toffoli doesn’t get the job done alone, not even close, Drouin is a joke no GM in the league is paying anything of substance for a $5.5M player that left the team in the playoffs.