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Called it this offseason btw

Created by: gpmack95
Team: 2021-22 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 16, 2021
Published: Nov. 16, 2021
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Pens should sell off this season, sell off UFAs except Malkin and Letang, and use $35M+ in offseason and retool.

Called if this offseason also, while others said "Sullivan will take them to playoffs". Not with a soft team and overrated (Guentzel, Rust, Kapanen)
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Bowers, Shane
  2. Kamenev, Vladislav [Reserve List]
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Rust, Bryan ($1,750,000 retained)
2.
PIT
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. 2023 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach ($725,000 retained)
  2. 2023 7th round pick (TOR)
3.
PIT
  1. 2023 4th round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Heinen, Danton
  2. Rodrigues, Evan
Additional Details:
Can be any team that wants these two for depth scoring in playoffs
4.
PIT
  1. 2022 7th round pick (LAK)
5.
PIT
  1. 2022 5th round pick (SJS)
MIN
  1. Riikola, Juuso
  2. 2022 7th round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
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2022
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2023
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2024
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20$81,500,000$75,928,206$0$850,000$5,571,794
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,636,364$2,636,364
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$766,667$766,667 ($0$0$0$0)
C
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
C
RFA - 1
$850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
RFA

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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:22 a.m.
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I don't agree, I think the Pens should keep trying to contend, they have a chance to win every year with how good the team is.
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:23 a.m.
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I don't agree, I think the Pens should keep trying to contend, they have a chance to win every year with how good the team is.


Your a funny guy.
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:29 a.m.
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You think Guentzel is overrated?
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:31 a.m.
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You think Guentzel is overrated?


I just think he is annoying and soft. He has great hockey skills, but he doesn't stfu and the ice crew is always scraping him off the ice during tv timeouts.
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:34 a.m.
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rust trade looks good.
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:34 a.m.
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I honestly agree with you on a lot of this. I personally think that we should rebuild if were not in playoff contention by January. I agree with you 100% that the team dosen't have enough toughness and is not a true contender. We basically did nothing to improve, and actually got worse in the offseason. That tells me that the management dosen't see us as a big contender, or at least not big enough to risk the salary cap by going all in. I think we should trade all UFA's including Malkin and Letang at the deadline. While I'd like to keep them, I think its too risky if were close to a rebuild and getting first round picks for them could speed it up a lot. With Darnell Nurse getting 9 mil I think Letang could get paid way more then we can offer, and I doubt they would take a hometown discount. I do agree with you though overall, I never really saw this team as a contender, and I think people are overestimating them and Sullivan's ability to turn this around.
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:34 a.m.
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I just think he is annoying and soft. He has great hockey skills, but he doesn't stfu and the ice crew is always scraping him off the ice during tv timeouts.


I get that
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:37 a.m.
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We're barely a month into the season and have had a combined two games from Crosby and Malkin. I agree that we're underperforming and our top players aren't performing the way we'd hoped, but I think a lot of the ACGMs for Pittsburgh overreact a little bit. Give it time. St. Louis had the worst record in the league on January 1st 2019, so anything is possible.

However I can't call this team soft, at least physically. According to statmuse, the Pens are 4th in the league in hits per game, behind only the Sens, Isles, and Hawks. And we aren't going to get a more physical team by selling off players. Lafferty will probably be a significant physical presence, but you're trading away ZAR, who according to tsn is 7th in the league in hits and leading the team by a wide margin.

I do think changes need to be made somewhere, but I don't think giving up on the season and selling is a reasonable response this early in the season unless Hextall and Burke *really* want Shane Wright.
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:37 a.m.
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I honestly agree with you on a lot of this. I personally think that we should rebuild if were not in playoff contention by January. I agree with you 100% that the team dosen't have enough toughness and is not a true contender. We basically did nothing to improve, and actually got worse in the offseason. That tells me that the management dosen't see us as a big contender, or at least not big enough to risk the salary cap by going all in. I think we should trade all UFA's including Malkin and Letang at the deadline. While I'd like to keep them, I think its too risky if were close to a rebuild and getting first round picks for them could speed it up a lot. With Darnell Nurse getting 9 mil I think Letang could get paid way more then we can offer, and I doubt they would take a hometown discount. I do agree with you though overall, I never really saw this team as a contender, and I think people are overestimating them and Sullivan's ability to turn this around.


Malkin is willing to take a paycut, however letang is not. I'd give both 3 years $7M. I would not bring back Bryan Rust, he wants Hyman type of deal.
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:38 a.m.
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We're barely a month into the season and have had a combined two games from Crosby and Malkin. I agree that we're underperforming and our top players aren't performing the way we'd hoped, but I think a lot of the ACGMs for Pittsburgh overreact a little bit. Give it time. St. Louis had the worst record in the league on January 1st 2019, so anything is possible.

However I can't call this team soft, at least physically. According to statmuse, the Pens are 4th in the league in hits per game, behind only the Sens, Isles, and Hawks. And we aren't going to get a more physical team by selling off players. Lafferty will probably be a significant physical presence, but you're trading away ZAR, who according to tsn is 7th in the league in hits and leading the team by a wide margin.

I do think changes need to be made somewhere, but I don't think giving up on the season and selling is a reasonable response this early in the season unless Hextall and Burke *really* want Shane Wright.


They want Pittsburgh kid Logan Cooley. Tshirt sales more important to David Morehouse.
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:40 a.m.
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I get that


Deslauriers for 4th?
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:40 a.m.
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Your a funny guy.


The Pens are a really good team.
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:41 a.m.
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Deslauriers for 4th?


To me he is worth more than that to Anaheim right now but I know some of the other Ducks guys would say yes
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:42 a.m.
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Guentzel and rust aren’t overrated. Kapanen definitely isn’t playing up to expectations tho
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:46 a.m.
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The Pens are a really good team.


Finally a contender and talking ****. Was rooting for EDM to win because of Ceci and Sceviour but now go flames!
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:47 a.m.
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To me he is worth more than that to Anaheim right now but I know some of the other Ducks guys would say yes


Lafferty and 4th?
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:47 a.m.
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Guentzel and rust aren’t overrated. Kapanen definitely isn’t playing up to expectations tho


Guentzel couldnt do much without 87 or 71. But on the other hand he had little Erod as his center lol
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:48 a.m.
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Finally a contender and talking ****. Was rooting for EDM to win because of Ceci and Sceviour but now go flames!


What do you mean??

I honestly think the Pens can go deep every single year.

EDM's defence and goaltending is such a big ? mark I don't think we can go far with it
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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What do you mean??

I honestly think the Pens can go deep every single year.

EDM's defence and goaltending is such a big ? mark I don't think we can go far with it


Have you watched this cupcake team? Soft. Islanders and Capitals just pound them in playoffs every year.

Holland will upgrade that soon and youll be fine. You want Marcus Pettersson?
Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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Have you watched this cupcake team? Soft. Islanders and Capitals just pound them in playoffs every year.

Holland will upgrade that soon and youll be fine. You want Marcus Pettersson?


I watched the Pens game when they basically had all their star players scratched vs the Leafs, and they still won that game 7-1

The Pens didn't have any of their star players that night but they still dominated.

I've watched the Pens a fair bit in the past and I know they're good, and looking at your roster, I don't think you need to rebuilt yet.
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.
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I watched the Pens game when they basically had all their star players scratched vs the Leafs, and they still won that game 7-1

The Pens didn't have any of their star players that night but they still dominated.

I've watched the Pens a fair bit in the past and I know they're good, and looking at your roster, I don't think you need to rebuilt yet.


Interested in Pettersson and Rust?
Nov. 16, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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Interested in Pettersson and Rust?


Maybe Rust
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.
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Maybe Rust


Offer?
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 10:04 a.m.
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Offer?


Edmonton Oilers Rust retained at 50%

Pittsburgh Penguins Broberg + 2nd Round Pick + Tyler Benson ?
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Nov. 16, 2021 at 10:10 a.m.
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Edmonton Oilers Rust retained at 50%

Pittsburgh Penguins Broberg + 2nd Round Pick + Tyler Benson ?


Works for me.
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