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more physical defense

Created by: Zmach
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 17, 2021
Published: Nov. 17, 2021
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Yamamoto, Kailer2$1,500,000
Puljujärvi, Jesse3$4,000,000
McLeod, Ryan2$950,000
Samorukov, Dmitri2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Manson, Josh4$4,100,000
Turris, Kyle1$750,000
Koskinen, Mikko2$2,500,000
Trades
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EDM
    Josh manson
    ANA
    1. Barrie, Tyson
    2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
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    TDL 20-21
    Buyouts
    • James Neal: $1,916,667
    • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$83,189,462$896,000$1,350,000-$689,462
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Holloway, Dylan
    $925,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    McDavid, Connor
    $12,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Puljujärvi, Jesse
    $4,000,000
    RW
    RFA
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    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    $5,125,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    Draisaitl, Leon
    $8,500,000
    C, LW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Hyman, Zach
    $5,500,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Foegele, Warren
    $2,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Ryan, Derek
    $1,250,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Yamamoto, Kailer
    $1,500,000
    RW, C
    RFA
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    Shore, Devin
    $850,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 1
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    McLeod, Ryan
    $950,000
    C
    RFA
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    Kassian, Zack
    $3,200,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Nurse, Darnell
    $9,250,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    Bouchard, Evan
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 1
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    Smith, Mike
    $2,200,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Keith, Duncan
    $5,538,462
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    Ceci, Cody
    $3,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
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    Koskinen, Mikko
    $2,500,000
    G
    UFA
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    Samorukov, Dmitri
    $950,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Manson, Josh
    $4,100,000
    RD
    UFA
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    Skinner, Stuart
    $750,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Koekkoek, Slater
    $925,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
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    Klefbom, Oscar
    $4,167,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Turris, Kyle
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA

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    Nov. 17, 2021 at 12:54 p.m.
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    Smokewise Ganja
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    For that price we should be getting Lindholm. Manson isn't very good more on par with Ceci
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    Nov. 17, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.
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    Puljujarvi might get signed for more on a longer term deal.
    Why extend Koskinen?? Baffled!!
    I think Broberg takes third pair slot next year unless they decide to extend his grooming period.
    I would not spend a first round pick unless it either gets me in shooting range of the SCF or a long term G solution. IE Gibson.
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: smokewiseganja
    For that price we should be getting Lindholm. Manson isn't very good more on par with Ceci

    Manson is good in the playoffs though when the rough stuff picks up.
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.
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    I'm just curious as to why the Ducks would have any interest in Barrie?
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    Nov. 17, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: Duggysdanglers
    Puljujarvi might get signed for more on a longer term deal.
    Why extend Koskinen?? Baffled!!
    I think Broberg takes third pair slot next year unless they decide to extend his grooming period.
    I would not spend a first round pick unless it either gets me in shooting range of the SCF or a long term G solution. IE Gibson.


    I don't think edmonton has the cap room to get a 5-6 million dollar guy for at least a year. Koskinen is a good backup who i think they can get for that dollar figure. The vibe i'm getting is the organization wants skinner to be the goalie of the future and the stats across the NHL suggest fans might be looking for a goalie that doesn't exist outside of vasilevski and Hellebuyk.
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    Nov. 17, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Zmach
    I don't think edmonton has the cap room to get a 5-6 million dollar guy for at least a year. Koskinen is a good backup who i think they can get for that dollar figure. The vibe i'm getting is the organization wants skinner to be the goalie of the future and the stats across the NHL suggest fans might be looking for a goalie that doesn't exist outside of vasilevski and Hellebuyk.


    Hellebuyck would rock!! Imagine if they could draft a G like that. I honestly was more than a little pissed when they traded down to get Bourgault. Jesper Wallstedt was still there and he projects really well.
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.
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    I think JP gets more term and money
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 1:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: Duggysdanglers
    Puljujarvi might get signed for more on a longer term deal.
    Why extend Koskinen?? Baffled!!
    I think Broberg takes third pair slot next year unless they decide to extend his grooming period.
    I would not spend a first round pick unless it either gets me in shooting range of the SCF or a long term G solution. IE Gibson.

    Koskinen has been at least as good as Gibson over the past 2+ seasons. Do you even look at performance or do you just go strictly by reputation?
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: smokewiseganja
    For that price we should be getting Lindholm. Manson isn't very good more on par with Ceci


    The Oilers wouldn't get Lindholm for that.
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.
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    Koskinen has been at least as good as Gibson over the past 2+ seasons. Do you even look at performance or do you just go strictly by reputation?


    Gibson is younger and played on a way worse team. I look at the goals Koskinen has allowed vs some that Gibson has allowed.
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 1:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: Duggysdanglers
    Hellebuyck would rock!! Imagine if they could draft a G like that. I honestly was more than a little pissed when they traded down to get Bourgault. Jesper Wallstedt was still there and he projects really well.


    Wallstedt apparently has an attitude problem. I trust they know things nobody else will know for some time. Also a right shot center is more of a need for edmonton than a goalie that wont be ready for 4 years and they can probably trade for. Derek Ryan is good but ideally he is a 4th line center and they draft a guy like Philip Danault (Xavier Bourgault) who is strong defensively and can score a bit helping take them to the stanley cup finals.
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: smokewiseganja
    For that price we should be getting Lindholm. Manson isn't very good more on par with Ceci


    Not close for Lindholm
    Nov. 17, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Duggysdanglers
    Gibson is younger and played on a way worse team. I look at the goals Koskinen has allowed vs some that Gibson has allowed.

    Anaheim is worse because they have worse offense and worse goaltending, they don't have worse defense. Look at the numbers.
     
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