koskinen is easily better than fleury flapjack

why turris?
lagesson+benson/lavoie + second

lagesson b level prospect + benson 4th liner depth forward behind perlinin in depth chart (left wing, needed) or lavoie b- level prospect on the wrong side of what we need(project) + second (The second is going to be very late in the round) for chairot retained


russel is useless to habs, turris is useless to the habs kemp is useless to the habs he is a low end prospect that is defensively minded 7th rounder, we have more than enough of those) we need a puck mover and lagesson isnt the best but he has the potential at least . Chairot alone will bring a second+, retained he will bring more.

Sports is all about what have you done for me lately... otherwise I'd trade McDavid for Bobby Orr, Gordie Howe and the entire 1986 Oilers roster.

A guy's trophy case or past achievements mean next to nothing if he isn't performing today. Why aren't teams lining up for Joe Thornton? 1686 games, 1530 points - he must be worth his weight in gold!

Considering it was only a few months ago he won the trophy and demonstrated why he's one of the best goalies in the league, you'd think you'd be smart enough to realize the first 5 games or so is an outlier joining a new team, but I'll bite on your comment of what have you done for me lately...

The last 7 games Flowers has a average .931 save % on a average of 33 shots faced per game. Meanwhile, Kos has a .896 save % on 30 shots faced per game on average.

You started with a baseless claim "Koskinen is better than Fleury, Chicago should be adding. Deal with it." and continue to defend it which says either you're a homer or trolling at this point so I'm out as it's clear as day to even a casual hockey fan let alone someone who knows the game intimately

Gorton laughs out loud and hangs up...

as the whole league laughs at MTL

I wouldn't give up a 1st ever for chairot

Too bad some actual NHL journalists think it may come to that since that 1st pick is a high one hence practically a 2nd round pick… Instead of undermining others options (spit balling trades, not actual trades you know that right??) you should check the ridiculous options you yourself are putting out there.. Your choices are worse than most one this site.. so if you can’t take the comments, then don’t start them yourself little troll.

your name is quite ironic then who cares.... but as soon as someone disagrees with you you cant handle it.

Here is why would not give up a first for chiarot.. oh by the ways the AGM below are actual trades that have happened....
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2920551

and great that journalists think that last time i check none of them are GMS...

We now have a little more track record to look at. Here are MAF's splits this year.

Oct .872
Nov .935
Dec .910
Jan .896

One good month out of 4, one average month and (so far) 2 below average months.

The Oilers aren't interested. They'll ride a healthy Mike Smith, a rested Mikko Koskinen and a rising Stuart Skinner rather than spend draft capital on an inconsistent rental. Holland said as much yesterday.

What is .910 not good?

It's average.

It’s not like Koskinen has been lighting the world on fire yet yall treat him like he’s Grant Fuhr

He's the Oilers 3rd goalie. They aren't looking to upgrade him.

Fluery is a .923 for January so far, not .896

For the season...
Flowers = .915
Skinner = .900
Kos = .900
Smith = .898 (turning age 40 before the playoffs start)

Oilers aren't going anywhere with their current net. Flowers is clearly a upgrade to any of those guys especially come playoffs with a pedigree of 3 cups under his belt; you're foolish to suggest otherwise. However, I doubt Flowers will waive for Edmonton anyways so it's a moot point.

MAF finished January with a mediocre .905 save percentage.

I just looked up their GSAx/60 for the season:
Fleury: -0.311
Koskinen: -0.324

It's a coin flip. Keep him. Maybe he'll show better closer to the deadline.

That's a function of the team more then Flowers as the team in front of him has fallen apart completely. That said, Flowers has had a couple bad games mixed in as well to be fair but the coach is also playing him too much.

GSAx is designed to capture the defense in front of a goalie, so that's already baked in.

Yet as every pro knows, advanced analytics is not unequivocal truth; without the eye test, it's impossible to depend on advanced analytics solely.