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Created by: nickthehabsfan

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 18, 2021

Published: Nov. 18, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

MTL

2022 1st round pick (MTL)

ARI

2022 1st round pick (CAR)

Additional Details:

Montreal pick finishes in the top 10, which means that Montreal gets it and Arizona gets the Carolina pick

MTL

2022 1st round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

Rumored trade on 32 thoughts podcast. I think this is terrible for Edmonton but I hope that it's true.

EDM

Chiarot, Ben ($1,750,000 retained)

MTL

Edler, Alexander
Quick, Jonathan
2022 2nd round pick (LAK)
2023 1st round pick (LAK)

LAK

Additional Details:

I don't see Petry as having much value right now but LA could use a solid top 4 D man right now. The goalie swap is partly so cap works but also, Allen is a big upgrade on Quick. This might be a little high for both these guys. I could see 2 2nds instead of a 1st and 2nd. Because of that ill make the first top 10 protected.

MTL

2022 3rd round pick (DET)
2023 3rd round pick (DET)

DET

Savard, David

Additional Details:

the only reason this trade is with detroit is because of the leddy trade last summer. Savard is an ok d man but his contract might be a little of a deterant. Last year he was worth a 1st and 3rd when he was retained so I think its fair to assume he's worth 2 3rds based on his current contract.

MTL

Hagelin, Carl
2022 1st round pick (WSH)

WSH

Hoffman, Mike
2022 3rd round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

Hoffman is a goal-scorer who just signed a new contract this summer. Based on the contract I think its fair to assume he's worth an early 2nd/late 1st. I see Washington as a good fit as they are playing well this year and are going for the cup. The 3rd is added to balance out the value since Hoffman for a first is a little montreal sided I feel.

MTL

Myers, Tyler
2022 1st round pick (VAN)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
2024 2nd round pick (VAN)

VAN

Toffoli, Tyler

Additional Details:

Benning is dumb. He probably still sees Vancouver as a possible playoff team. Toffoli played well in Vancouver and I think they woud like to have him back. The return is a 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd becuase I think that Toffoli's value is similar to Hoffman's and that dumping Myers also costs Vancouver 2nds+.

MTL

2022 3rd round pick (BOS)
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)

OTT

Anderson, Josh

Additional Details:

Anderson is similar to Hoffman and Toffoli, but his contract lowers his value a little which is why a 2nd and a 3rd is fair. Ottawa is coming put of the rebuild and I see Anderson as a good fit to play with Tkchuck. That duo would be scary.

imagine if montreal drafted brady...

MTL

2022 2nd round pick (COL)
2023 2nd round pick (NYI)

NYI

Additional Details:

The Islanders are not afraid to pay at the decline (Pageau). Edmundson would make that blueline so much better and paquette is a good depth piece for the playoffs. Considering this would be a dealine move I could see two seconds, especially if one of them is Colorado's

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Ben Chiarot: $1,750,000 (100%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$64,228,394	$597,561	$1,557,500	$17,271,606

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 4	Poehling, Ryan $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 4	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Perreault, Mathieu $950,000$950,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1
		Lehkonen, Artturi $1,150,000$1,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Norlinder, Mattias $859,167$859,167 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 3	Niku, Sami $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Quick, Jonathan $2,900,000$2,900,000 G UFA - 2
	Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Edler, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 3		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
Montembeault, Samuel $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Hagelin, Carl $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 2

Nov. 18, 2021 at 11:14 p.m.

aedoran

Joined: Dec. 2017

Posts: 21,635

Likes: 11,992

Detroit is all set down the right side of their D. With Sider, Hronek and Lindstrom and it's why Stecher has been a healthy scratch so often this season.

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Nov. 18, 2021 at 11:20 p.m.

Drakin1978

Joined: Jan. 2018

Posts: 430

Likes: 96

i would remove a second and ask for bellows
anderson value is fair but that contract (maybe we retain 1m)
hoffman value i think is good but why haglin? get another pick or give hoffman up for a second and prosppect
savard is not returning 2x3rd's
cant see Edmonton doing that, i would offer2 of legasson/lavoie/benson +3rd that way we get prospects and a pic

Nov. 18, 2021 at 11:21 p.m.

Lancebmx

Joined: Oct. 2020

Posts: 10,394

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Quoting: aedoran

Detroit is all set down the right side of their D. With Sider, Hronek and Lindstrom and it's why Stecher has been a healthy scratch so often this season.

Agreed, I don't think Savard is a fit in Detroit. He would be third pairing or healthy scratch and that's just too much money to pay a guy for that spot. Two thirds is probably a fair price for him though. If he was a LD the story would be different here.

Los Angeles is short RD this year and I think there are a couple other teams that could use help there. Maybe Vancouver as well. Might be a part of your Toffoli trade somehow.

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Nov. 19, 2021 at 12:18 a.m.

Ausbear17

Joined: May 2021

Posts: 62

Likes: 40

If Holland trades a first for Chiarot there should be riots in the streets of Edmonton. Woof.

Nov. 19, 2021 at 12:29 a.m.

tkecanuck341

Joined: May 2016

Posts: 14,506

Likes: 6,125

Quoting: Lancebmx

Los Angeles is short a RHD for a few more weeks. Doughty is reportedly going to resume skating in a no-contact jersey this week. Kale Clague has also stepped up and has looked very good at RHD. He should be able to fill in for Walker until the end of the season.

The way Quick is playing right now, I wouldn't trade him 1-for-1 for Jeff Petry. Allen is definitely not a "big upgrade." I'd put money down that Quick will be a goaltender (if not THE goaltender) for the USA Olympic Team in February.

Nov. 19, 2021 at 3:24 a.m.

PerpetuallySad

Joined: Oct. 2020

Posts: 325

Likes: 105

You’ll get Barrie for Chairot and you’ll like it

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Nov. 19, 2021 at 9:46 a.m.

NoVaSpartan

Craig Laughlin Fan

Joined: Nov. 2019

Posts: 5,273

Likes: 5,732

Caps don't have the space for Hoffman, and would be a waste to have him there anyway, as the max he could do is play on the 3rd line. Certainly not worth giving up a 1st rounder for.

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Nov. 19, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.

All_Knowing

Joined: Aug. 2020

Posts: 1,659

Likes: 1,041

Quoting: NoVaSpartan

Caps don't have the space for Hoffman, and would be a waste to have him there anyway, as the max he could do is play on the 3rd line. Certainly not worth giving up a 1st rounder for.

Agreed - unless he replaces Mantha (assuming he is out for season) on the second line? That is the only way I could see him fitting for this season...but even that is a stretch

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Nov. 19, 2021 at 10:21 a.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

Joined: Jun. 2018

Posts: 40,109

Likes: 25,024

In what sense is Jake Allen "a big upgrade" on JQ except cap hit? Have you checked their stats lately? Quick lost the other night and it LOWERED his GAA (to almost a goal a game better than Allen) and RAISED his save percentage. I'm sure that's a least partially due to the way the two teams have been playing, but we wouldn't exchange one for the other unless we were getting substantially more.

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