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Kravtsov trade comp

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2021
Published: Nov. 19, 2021
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Trades
NYR
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (OTT)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. 2022 6th round pick (NYR)
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Comp would be the 2016 trade that send Maxim Letunov and a 6th to San Jose for a 3rd and a 4th.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$72,640,594$0$7,550,000$8,859,406
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
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UFA - 5
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
RFA - 1
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$3,641,667$3,641,667
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,666,667$5,666,667
G
UFA - 4
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$874,125$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Nov. 19, 2021 at 8:45 a.m.
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comparing a former 2nd round pick to a #9OA? Don't think much of a comp there...in the end the market will determine Krav's worth...but if that meager return is all that's out there- he'll be playing an awful lot of KHL hockey.
Nov. 19, 2021 at 8:53 a.m.
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Ottawa accepts.
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Nov. 19, 2021 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Jimbo1119
comparing a former 2nd round pick to a #9OA? Don't think much of a comp there...in the end the market will determine Krav's worth...but if that meager return is all that's out there- he'll be playing an awful lot of KHL hockey.


Where they were drafted really shouldn't matter at this point. Kravtsov was picked a little high. But thought it at the time as wel. He had been the buzzy prospect after a fantastic run in playoffs as 18-year old. And probably should have been selected in the 25-50 range.

If they had been shopping him for a 2nd, and found no takers, one would think a 3rd and 4th would be logical price, no?
Nov. 19, 2021 at 10:48 a.m.
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Where they were drafted really shouldn't matter at this point. Kravtsov was picked a little high. But thought it at the time as wel. He had been the buzzy prospect after a fantastic run in playoffs as 18-year old. And probably should have been selected in the 25-50 range.

If they had been shopping him for a 2nd, and found no takers, one would think a 3rd and 4th would be logical price, no?


But it does matter where they were drafted...you are correct in one sense- at a certain point the __ OA pick in any draft becomes another young prospect who needs to find his way. But the optics of a team giving up on a prospect are pretty bad. And the higher that prospect was picked makes the optics infinitely worse. And btw I believe most draft experts had him in the teens for his draft. This is why EDM didn't quickly give up on JP (who if they received a good offer would have probably moved a year or so ago). Krav's biggest problem is his maturity...not his talent. I'd expect that when he does grow up a bit he's going to be a pretty good NHL player...for the Rangers or someone else. But if Drury were to jettison him now for 2 picks...both with a historic low probability of amounting to anything at the NHL level...and then Krav becomes a top 6 fwd, let alone a star- Drury will be run out of town.
Nov. 19, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.
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Nov. 19, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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But it does matter where they were drafted...you are correct in one sense- at a certain point the __ OA pick in any draft becomes another young prospect who needs to find his way. But the optics of a team giving up on a prospect are pretty bad. And the higher that prospect was picked makes the optics infinitely worse. And btw I believe most draft experts had him in the teens for his draft. This is why EDM didn't quickly give up on JP (who if they received a good offer would have probably moved a year or so ago). Krav's biggest problem is his maturity...not his talent. I'd expect that when he does grow up a bit he's going to be a pretty good NHL player...for the Rangers or someone else. But if Drury were to jettison him now for 2 picks...both with a historic low probability of amounting to anything at the NHL level...and then Krav becomes a top 6 fwd, let alone a star- Drury will be run out of town.


I fully get the optics part of it, but Drury has already taken most of those lumps. And it was Gorton that drafted him anyway. So I don’t think the PR hit will be that bad.

As for his #9 position, Kravtsov was the buzzy pick in that draft. He had moved from ~ 40/50 and B rating by central scouting before playoffs to around 15-22 and A-rating after playoffs. If a re-draft of those same players were done today, I think he goes in late 1st round or early 2nd round.
Nov. 19, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
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I fully get the optics part of it, but Drury has already taken most of those lumps. And it was Gorton that drafted him anyway. So I don’t think the PR hit will be that bad.

As for his #9 position, Kravtsov was the buzzy pick in that draft. He had moved from ~ 40/50 and B rating by central scouting before playoffs to around 15-22 and A-rating after playoffs. If a re-draft of those same players were done today, I think he goes in late 1st round or early 2nd round.


About right on his draft assessment....my guess right now is Drury has put out a pretty high ask- but if offered a little better than the Lias trade he would cut losses and move on. Of course the Rangers being the Rangers- can never discount a foolish short sighted move- like making Kessel the main piece of a return!
 
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