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Is this value good enough for Stamkos and Kucherov?

Created by: Mr_cap
Team: 2016-17 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 18, 2017
Published: Mar. 18, 2017
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Nothing team related but was just wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the value of both of these trades.

Also these trades aren't lateral (i.e Subban for Weber). These are quality/quantity trades. If for example they were to blow everything up for some reason.
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Scherbak, Nikita
  2. Sergachev, Mikhail
  3. 2017 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Stamkos, Steven
2.
TBL
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Nylander, William
  3. 2017 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Kucherov, Nikita
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2017
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2018
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$73,000,000$55,060,793$314,168$4,190,000$17,939,207
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Palat, Ondrej
$3,333,333$3,333,333
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Callahan, Ryan
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
Drouin, Jonathan
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,300,000$2M)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Killorn, Alex
$4,450,000$4,450,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
Erne, Adam
$874,167$874,167
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Johnson, Tyler
$3,333,333$3,333,333
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Brown, J.T.
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 2
Namestnikov, Vladislav
$1,937,500$1,937,500
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
Vermin, Joel
$575,000$575,000
RW
UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas
$750,833$750,833 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Paquette, Cédric
$812,500$812,500
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Scherbak, Nikita
$863,333$863,333
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Point, Brayden
$686,667$686,667 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
C, RW
UFA - 3
Dumont, Gabriel
$575,000$575,000
C
UFA - 1
Nylander, William
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Garrison, Jason
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Strålman, Anton
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
G
UFA - 1
Hedman, Victor
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Coburn, Braydon
$3,700,000$3,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
Budaj, Peter
$600,000$600,000
G
UFA - 1
Sustr, Andrej
$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 1
Sergachev, Mikhail
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Dotchin, Jake
$616,667$616,667
RD
UFA - 1
Witkowski, Luke
$575,000$575,000
RW, RD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 18, 2017 at 8:23 p.m.
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Sorry, but no. TBL i think would get more.
Mar. 18, 2017 at 8:24 p.m.
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Sorry, but no. TBL i think would get more.


Yeah I feel like they could get a lot more but idk.
Mar. 18, 2017 at 10:18 p.m.
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Kucherov has been good this year but I wouldn't make that trade....1for 1 Toronto would think about it but Nylander is younger and already has 30 more points than Kucherov as a rookie...
Mar. 18, 2017 at 10:55 p.m.
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Kucherov has been good this year but I wouldn't make that trade....1for 1 Toronto would think about it but Nylander is younger and already has 30 more points than Kucherov as a rookie...


That's the thing with Kucherov though. Everybody sees him as this Taresenko model or even an Ovechkin type. He is far from that. He has one of the most underrated two-way play as a winger in the league. Nylander or Kucherov? Without a doubt, I would choose Kucherov. Along with the mentioned above, he is also an elite (and I mean ELITE) sniper and an elite playmaker. To me, if he isn't already, is the best winger in the game. And he's only 23!!!!
Mar. 18, 2017 at 11:53 p.m.
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I have to agree. He might be the best all-around winger in the game. Could you imagine a line with him and Toews...might be +100 at years end.
Mar. 19, 2017 at 12:01 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I have to agree. He might be the best all-around winger in the game. Could you imagine a line with him and Toews...might be +100 at years end.


Omg yeah. Crazy. And Max Pacioretty on the other side. Good luck playing in their D zone.
Mar. 19, 2017 at 9:42 a.m.
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Yeah neither Stamkos nor Kucherov are getting dealt, Nuff said.
Mar. 19, 2017 at 11:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Larkinisking
Yeah neither Stamkos nor Kucherov are getting dealt, Nuff said.


Oh I didn't know that, thanks for reminding me.
 
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