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TDL moves

Created by: sh51_aa
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 22, 2021
Published: Nov. 22, 2021
Team: 2021-22 New Jersey Devils
Team Explanation
Devils hang around where they currently are and GMTF decides to add at the deadline without giving up any significant assets.
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. De Haan, Calvin
CHI
  1. 2022 4th round pick (NJD)
2.
NJD
  1. Pavelski, Joe
DAL
  1. 2022 4th round pick (NYI)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
  • Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Will Butcher: $910,569 (24%)
Recapture Fees
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
NJD
NJD
NJD
EDM
CBJ
NJD
NJD
2023
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
2024
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,938,902$0$4,050,000$561,098
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NJD
Tatar, Tomas
$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
NJD
Hischier, Nico
$7,250,000
C
UFA - 6
NJD
Mercer, Dawson
$894,167
C, RW
RFA - 3
NJD
Kuokkanen, Janne
$1,825,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
NJD
Hughes, Jack
$925,000
C
UFA - 1
NJD
Sharangovich, Yegor
$2,000,000
RW, LW, C
RFA - 2
NJD
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
DAL
Pavelski, Joe
$7,000,000
RW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
NJD
Bratt, Jesper
$2,750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
NJD
Zacha, Pavel
$2,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
NJD
Mcleod, Michael
$975,000
C
RFA - 2
NJD
Vesey, Jimmy
$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NJD
Graves, Ryan
$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 2
NJD
Hamilton, Dougie
$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
NJD
Blackwood, Mackenzie
$2,800,000
G
RFA - 2
NJD
Siegenthaler, Jonas
$1,125,000
LD
RFA - 2
NJD
Subban, P.K.
$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
NJD
Bernier, Jonathan
$4,125,000
G
UFA - 2
NJD
Smith, Ty
$863,333
LD/RD
RFA - 2
NJD
Severson, Damon
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NJD
Thompson, Tyce
$912,500
RW
RFA - 1
NJD
Wood, Miles
$2,750,000
LW
RFA - 1
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
NJD
White, Colton
$750,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Nov. 22, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
#1
Joined: Apr. 2017
Posts: 1,387
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CDH has been great we can probably get more from him. Pavelski will cost a lot more.
Nov. 22, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.
#2
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Joined: Mar. 2018
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Even as a rental, Pavelski is going to cost far more than a 3rd & a 4th. He was nearly a PPG player last year & on currently pace for over 50 points this year, in a terrible offensive system. Not saying he's going for something insane, but you can't gain a significant asset without giving up a significant asset in return. EITHER a late 1st & a decent prospect or a 2nd & a high upside prospect

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 2nd Round Pick
Shakhir Mukhamadullin OR Nolan Foote

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New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 1st Round Pick
Graeme Clarke OR Patrick Moynihan
Nov. 22, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
#3
Waste Mgmt Exec.
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 550
Likes: 355
Quoting: TheMooterus
Even as a rental, Pavelski is going to cost far more than a 3rd & a 4th. He was nearly a PPG player last year & on currently pace for over 50 points this year, in a terrible offensive system. Not saying he's going for something insane, but you can't gain a significant asset without giving up a significant asset in return. EITHER a late 1st & a decent prospect or a 2nd & a high upside prospect

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 2nd Round Pick
Shakhir Mukhamadullin OR Nolan Foote

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New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 1st Round Pick
Graeme Clarke OR Patrick Moynihan


while the prices for pav presented here are somewhat reasonable Devils shouldn't be the team paying it.
need to prove "we" can make the playoffs with this core without utilizing short term improvements, will hurt us in the long run to lose these types of assets at this time.
think there will be a couple of better options for pavelski to go to at TDL
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Nov. 22, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
#4
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Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 2,921
Likes: 1,445
Quoting: PaulieWalnuts
while the prices for pav presented here are somewhat reasonable Devils shouldn't be the team paying it.
need to prove "we" can make the playoffs with this core without utilizing short term improvements, will hurt us in the long run to lose these types of assets at this time.
think there will be a couple of better options for pavelski to go to at TDL


Oh for sure. The only way the Devils should be making a trade like this is if they are actually competitive enough to potentially make a deep playoff run. I like the Devils this year. I think they are definitely on the right trajectory, but I don't see them as a deep playoff threat this season. They're getting close, but I don't know that 2021-2022 is the season that they should go all in. Give it another couple years & then take your shots when the championship window should be wide open.
Nov. 22, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
#5
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 13,719
Likes: 5,733
Quoting: TheMooterus
Even as a rental, Pavelski is going to cost far more than a 3rd & a 4th. He was nearly a PPG player last year & on currently pace for over 50 points this year, in a terrible offensive system. Not saying he's going for something insane, but you can't gain a significant asset without giving up a significant asset in return. EITHER a late 1st & a decent prospect or a 2nd & a high upside prospect

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 2nd Round Pick
Shakhir Mukhamadullin OR Nolan Foote

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New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 1st Round Pick
Graeme Clarke OR Patrick Moynihan


Maybe Foote, Clarke, or Moynihan plus a 2nd.
(Foote and Clarke probably have similar value...Mukhamadullin is worth a ton more than either)

Devils won't be top bidder for Pavelski, but he would be a good vet to rent just to show our kids what getting into, and playing in, playoffs is all about.
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Nov. 22, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.
#6
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 13,719
Likes: 5,733
I do not think Devils would consider this deal for De Haan. Make it a 5th or 6th.
Nov. 22, 2021 at 3:18 p.m.
#7
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 2,641
Likes: 1,220
Quoting: TheMooterus
Even as a rental, Pavelski is going to cost far more than a 3rd & a 4th. He was nearly a PPG player last year & on currently pace for over 50 points this year, in a terrible offensive system. Not saying he's going for something insane, but you can't gain a significant asset without giving up a significant asset in return. EITHER a late 1st & a decent prospect or a 2nd & a high upside prospect

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 2nd Round Pick
Shakhir Mukhamadullin OR Nolan Foote

--------------------------------------------------------------

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 1st Round Pick
Graeme Clarke OR Patrick Moynihan


Foote or Muk and a second would be my choice. We get the slightly better prospect and our front office seems more willing to target pure talent in the second round. I do like Clarke tho
Nov. 22, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
#8
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Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 2,921
Likes: 1,445
Quoting: NHLfan10506
Maybe Foote, Clarke, or Moynihan plus a 2nd.
(Foote and Clarke probably have similar value...Mukhamadullin is worth a ton more than either)

Devils won't be top bidder for Pavelski, but he would be a good vet to rent just to show our kids what getting into, and playing in, playoffs is all about.


I agree that the Devils likely won't be the top bidder for Pavelski. I think the only way they are serious about adding a pure rental like Pavelski is if they are firmly entrenched as a top-3 team in the Metro & look like a team that could make a deep playoff run. I love what the Devils are currently doing, but I don't think they are quite there yet & I don't see them buying a rental at this stage.

Correct me if I'm wrong (you do follow the Devils more than I do, so I'll defer to your judgement), but if I'm New Jersey and I plan on being a buyer at the deadline, I'm targeting guys at the deadline that still have a year or two left on their contract after this season. Doesn't make a ton of sense to trade young assets for a player that may only get you TO the playoffs when the Devils could trade for a player with term that could help get you THROUGH the playoffs a year or two from now.
 
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