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TDL moves

Created by: sh51_aa
Team: 2021-22 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 22, 2021
Published: Nov. 22, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Devils hang around where they currently are and GMTF decides to add at the deadline without giving up any significant assets.
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. 2022 4th round pick (NJD)
2.
DAL
  1. 2022 4th round pick (NYI)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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Logo of the EDM
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Logo of the NJD
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2023
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Logo of the NJD
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,938,902$0$4,050,000$561,098
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 6
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,825,000$1,825,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$975,000$975,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,250,000$2,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$4,125,000$4,125,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$912,500$912,500 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 22, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
#1
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CDH has been great we can probably get more from him. Pavelski will cost a lot more.
Nov. 22, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.
#2
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Even as a rental, Pavelski is going to cost far more than a 3rd & a 4th. He was nearly a PPG player last year & on currently pace for over 50 points this year, in a terrible offensive system. Not saying he's going for something insane, but you can't gain a significant asset without giving up a significant asset in return. EITHER a late 1st & a decent prospect or a 2nd & a high upside prospect

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 2nd Round Pick
Shakhir Mukhamadullin OR Nolan Foote

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New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 1st Round Pick
Graeme Clarke OR Patrick Moynihan
Nov. 22, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
#3
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Quoting: TheMooterus
Even as a rental, Pavelski is going to cost far more than a 3rd & a 4th. He was nearly a PPG player last year & on currently pace for over 50 points this year, in a terrible offensive system. Not saying he's going for something insane, but you can't gain a significant asset without giving up a significant asset in return. EITHER a late 1st & a decent prospect or a 2nd & a high upside prospect

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 2nd Round Pick
Shakhir Mukhamadullin OR Nolan Foote

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New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 1st Round Pick
Graeme Clarke OR Patrick Moynihan


while the prices for pav presented here are somewhat reasonable Devils shouldn't be the team paying it.
need to prove "we" can make the playoffs with this core without utilizing short term improvements, will hurt us in the long run to lose these types of assets at this time.
think there will be a couple of better options for pavelski to go to at TDL
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Nov. 22, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
#4
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Quoting: PaulieWalnuts
while the prices for pav presented here are somewhat reasonable Devils shouldn't be the team paying it.
need to prove "we" can make the playoffs with this core without utilizing short term improvements, will hurt us in the long run to lose these types of assets at this time.
think there will be a couple of better options for pavelski to go to at TDL


Oh for sure. The only way the Devils should be making a trade like this is if they are actually competitive enough to potentially make a deep playoff run. I like the Devils this year. I think they are definitely on the right trajectory, but I don't see them as a deep playoff threat this season. They're getting close, but I don't know that 2021-2022 is the season that they should go all in. Give it another couple years & then take your shots when the championship window should be wide open.
Nov. 22, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
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Quoting: TheMooterus
Even as a rental, Pavelski is going to cost far more than a 3rd & a 4th. He was nearly a PPG player last year & on currently pace for over 50 points this year, in a terrible offensive system. Not saying he's going for something insane, but you can't gain a significant asset without giving up a significant asset in return. EITHER a late 1st & a decent prospect or a 2nd & a high upside prospect

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 2nd Round Pick
Shakhir Mukhamadullin OR Nolan Foote

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New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 1st Round Pick
Graeme Clarke OR Patrick Moynihan


Maybe Foote, Clarke, or Moynihan plus a 2nd.
(Foote and Clarke probably have similar value...Mukhamadullin is worth a ton more than either)

Devils won't be top bidder for Pavelski, but he would be a good vet to rent just to show our kids what getting into, and playing in, playoffs is all about.
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Nov. 22, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.
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I do not think Devils would consider this deal for De Haan. Make it a 5th or 6th.
Nov. 22, 2021 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: TheMooterus
Even as a rental, Pavelski is going to cost far more than a 3rd & a 4th. He was nearly a PPG player last year & on currently pace for over 50 points this year, in a terrible offensive system. Not saying he's going for something insane, but you can't gain a significant asset without giving up a significant asset in return. EITHER a late 1st & a decent prospect or a 2nd & a high upside prospect

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 2nd Round Pick
Shakhir Mukhamadullin OR Nolan Foote

--------------------------------------------------------------

New Jersey Devils
Joe Pavelski (50% Retained)

Dallas Stars
2022 1st Round Pick
Graeme Clarke OR Patrick Moynihan


Foote or Muk and a second would be my choice. We get the slightly better prospect and our front office seems more willing to target pure talent in the second round. I do like Clarke tho
Nov. 22, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Maybe Foote, Clarke, or Moynihan plus a 2nd.
(Foote and Clarke probably have similar value...Mukhamadullin is worth a ton more than either)

Devils won't be top bidder for Pavelski, but he would be a good vet to rent just to show our kids what getting into, and playing in, playoffs is all about.


I agree that the Devils likely won't be the top bidder for Pavelski. I think the only way they are serious about adding a pure rental like Pavelski is if they are firmly entrenched as a top-3 team in the Metro & look like a team that could make a deep playoff run. I love what the Devils are currently doing, but I don't think they are quite there yet & I don't see them buying a rental at this stage.

Correct me if I'm wrong (you do follow the Devils more than I do, so I'll defer to your judgement), but if I'm New Jersey and I plan on being a buyer at the deadline, I'm targeting guys at the deadline that still have a year or two left on their contract after this season. Doesn't make a ton of sense to trade young assets for a player that may only get you TO the playoffs when the Devils could trade for a player with term that could help get you THROUGH the playoffs a year or two from now.
 
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