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Chiarot and Lehkonen

Created by: SevenLeg
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 25, 2021
Published: Nov. 25, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Chiarot, Ben ($1,750,000 retained)
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
MTL
  1. Turris, Kyle
  2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • James Neal: $1,916,667
  • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2023
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2024
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,671,968$669,339$907,500$1,828,032
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
EDM
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$1,175,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
EDM
Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
EDM
McLeod, Ryan
$834,167
C
RFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Shore, Devin
$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Ryan, Derek
$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$1,750,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Barrie, Tyson
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
EDM
Skinner, Stuart
$750,000
G
RFA - 2
EDM
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
EDM
Ceci, Cody
$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Sceviour, Colton
$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
EDM
Smith, Mike
$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
EDM
Koekkoek, Slater
$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Russell, Kris
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Stalock, Alex
$785,000
G
UFA - 1

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Nov. 25, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
#1
KFTW
Joined: Jul. 2018
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I like this.
Nov. 25, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
#2
scott sabourin
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 1,046
Likes: 489
Kinda too bad that Lehkonen is playing the best hockey of his life right now and he may very well have lost his spot on the team
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
#3
Joined: Feb. 2020
Posts: 233
Likes: 46
I like it, but I would probably try to add Lavoie in the trade
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
#4
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 16,068
Likes: 4,886
Oilers decline. They need a defenseman who can limit shots, goals, scoring chances and high danger chances. They aren't giving up high value for a guy who can't do any of that.
Nov. 25, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
#5
10k posts gang
Joined: Feb. 2019
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whats the deal with oilers fans sending turris back
Nov. 25, 2021 at 10:14 a.m.
#6
Joined: Feb. 2020
Posts: 708
Likes: 265
Quoting: CD282
Oilers decline. They need a defenseman who can limit shots, goals, scoring chances and high danger chances. They aren't giving up high value for a guy who can't do any of that.


of course Chariot look bad right now he's with the habs lol. But he's a proven playoff defenseman. a good pick up for the oilers
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 10:22 a.m.
#7
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 16,068
Likes: 4,886
Quoting: mastersp4
of course Chariot look bad right now he's with the habs lol. But he's a proven playoff defenseman. a good pick up for the oilers

I wasn't looking at this year in isolation (although it isn't unimportant), I was looking at his entire career. Chiarot hasn't been average on his team for defensive metrics - he has CONSISTENTLY been a poor defender year after year after year.

MEH. At 50% retained he's worth a 4th.
Nov. 25, 2021 at 10:25 a.m.
#8
v5 CBJ GM
Joined: Oct. 2020
Posts: 7,457
Likes: 7,875
Quoting: CD282
I wasn't looking at this year in isolation (although it isn't unimportant), I was looking at his entire career. Chiarot hasn't been average on his team for defensive metrics - he has CONSISTENTLY been a poor defender year after year after year.

MEH. At 50% retained he's worth a 4th.


Is Chiarot good, debatable, will a GM give good assets for him because GRIT and experience, yes
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
#9
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 16,068
Likes: 4,886
Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Is Chiarot good, debatable, will a GM give good assets for him because GRIT and experience, yes


Kulikov had better defensive metrics last deadline than Chiarot ever has, the Oilers gave up a 4th for him. Lots of gritty replacement level defensemen were moved last deadline, mostly for late round picks.
Nov. 25, 2021 at 10:46 a.m.
#10
I post sometimes
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 3,742
Likes: 858
Quoting: Zuki9797
whats the deal with oilers fans sending turris back


I think its for cap reasons
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
#11
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 16,068
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Quoting: Zuki9797
whats the deal with oilers fans sending turris back


Quoting: MTLaveragefan
I think its for cap reasons

SevenLeg is a Habs fan through and through.
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 11:45 a.m.
#12
Mark
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 730
Likes: 315
Opinions on Chiarot vary wildly. I have read that they should expect to get a 3rd for him, but Elliot Friedman thinks they could absolutely get a first.

I don't have a horse in the race. All I know is that I am not in any front offices of any NHL teams, and I don't know what anyone is planning on doing. They can set their value, and see if they get any takers. Personally, I think they'll get a 2nd and a prospect (but that's just my opinion, so please don't hate).

Last thought: Never under estimate a GM's ability to overpay at the trade deadline and the opening of free-agency. It has happened before, and it will happen again. smile

HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all the Americans here! smile
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 12:43 p.m.
#13
I post sometimes
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 3,742
Likes: 858
Quoting: markmws
Opinions on Chiarot vary wildly. I have read that they should expect to get a 3rd for him, but Elliot Friedman thinks they could absolutely get a first.

I don't have a horse in the race. All I know is that I am not in any front offices of any NHL teams, and I don't know what anyone is planning on doing. They can set their value, and see if they get any takers. Personally, I think they'll get a 2nd and a prospect (but that's just my opinion, so please don't hate).

Last thought: Never under estimate a GM's ability to overpay at the trade deadline and the opening of free-agency. It has happened before, and it will happen again. smile

HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all the Americans here! smile


It's like NFTs... are they really worth 300K? No. but is there somebody ready to spend that amount on a picture... apparently yes.
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.
#14
Mark
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 730
Likes: 315
Quoting: MTLaveragefan
It's like NFTs... are they really worth 300K? No. but is there somebody ready to spend that amount on a picture... apparently yes.


tears of joy That is so true!
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.
#15
Thread Starter
MTL AGM v5
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Posts: 12,033
Likes: 11,247
Quoting: CD282
SevenLeg is a Habs fan through and through.


No I'm a loyal Oilers fan squinting with tongue out
Nov. 25, 2021 at 7:10 p.m.
#16
GOHABSGO
Joined: Jun. 2021
Posts: 110
Likes: 28
It’s a fair deal imo but I think that teams will overpay the hell out of Chiarot so you could get a prospect like Lavoie (or Yamamoto?!) with that package
 
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