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CAL blockbuster

Created by: MTLaveragefan
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 25, 2021
Published: Nov. 25, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Ranger fans - I used you team as a reference - but I've heard from your fan base that you don't need Chariot... but anyway. I still love you guys if you decide to flame me.

Flame trade:

you guys want to acquire Toffoli and you will need cap space : here is a trade offer where you get to keep a 2nd C for cheaper, get Lucic's contract off the books - and get Toffoli for Coronato and a 2nd (which is pretty decent - the prospect could be tweeked)
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
a late first (or middle of the pack second) + a B+ prospect (but not one that is very known - like Danault was back in the day)

Rangers, Islander, Oilers - any contending team looking for a playoff LHD.
NYR
  1. Chiarot, Ben
2.
MTL
  1. Coronato, Matthew [Reserve List]
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Lucic, Milan
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Toffoli, Tyler
  2. Dvorak, Christian
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $1,958,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
CAR
NYR
MTL
CGY
MTL
ANA
CAR
MTL
TBL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2024
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,453,394$597,561$1,557,500$1,046,606
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Caufield, Cole
$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Hoffman, Mike
$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
CGY
Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Evans, Jake
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$6,500,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$6,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Wideman, Chris
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Allen, Jake
$2,875,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Norlinder, Mattias
$859,167
LD
RFA - 3
MTL
Savard, David
$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Perreault, Mathieu
$950,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 5

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Nov. 25, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
#1
Joined: Mar. 2021
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I think Coronato has very quickly become untouchable, he's been great at Harvard so far and fills in a role the Flames are severely lacking. Zary, Pelletier, MEP all on the table for sure, Coronato could be the best prospect the Flames have drafted in a long time though.
Nov. 25, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
#2
Tspky
Joined: Feb. 2016
Posts: 3,580
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respect the tidbit that it doesn't have to be the rangers, but in no way will Chiarot get a 1st round pick. You are probably looking at a 3rd rounder.
Nov. 25, 2021 at 2:27 p.m.
#3
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Problem with Lucic is he has 2 years on his deal still. I don't mind selecting like Zary but think you need to add a 2nd or 3rd as well from Calgary for taking back Lucic and downgrading the prospect from Coronoto.
Nov. 25, 2021 at 2:51 p.m.
#4
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Posts: 21,772
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Quoting: Spanky227
respect the tidbit that it doesn't have to be the rangers, but in no way will Chiarot get a 1st round pick. You are probably looking at a 3rd rounder.


There is a pretty good chance he returns a 1st simply because of what he brings in post-season play as well as lack of other options. Supply and demand has a large effect at the deadline
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 6:43 p.m.
#5
GOHABSGO
Joined: Jun. 2021
Posts: 127
Likes: 29
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
There is a pretty good chance he returns a 1st simply because of what he brings in post-season play as well as lack of other options. Supply and demand has a large effect at the deadline

Couldn’t have said it better myself 👏
Nov. 25, 2021 at 7:00 p.m.
#6
Joined: Jun. 2016
Posts: 183
Likes: 27
Quoting: Campabee
Problem with Lucic is he has 2 years on his deal still. I don't mind selecting like Zary but think you need to add a 2nd or 3rd as well from Calgary for taking back Lucic and downgrading the prospect from Coronoto.


I think I could live with that amendment.

Honestly, the idea of getting Dvorak and Toffoli is absolutely something I'd like to happen. The only hang-up for me is what it does for our cap next year.

With the season JG, MT, and AM are having I feel like we need their extensions sorted (one way or another) before we go shopping at the deadline.

If it looks like we're going to lose 1 or more of that three then Tre would probably make this deal in a heartbeat, then try and move those players that aren't extending before July 1.
Nov. 25, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.
#7
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 21,772
Likes: 11,224
Quoting: Treize131
I think I could live with that amendment.

Honestly, the idea of getting Dvorak and Toffoli is absolutely something I'd like to happen. The only hang-up for me is what it does for our cap next year.

With the season JG, MT, and AM are having I feel like we need their extensions sorted (one way or another) before we go shopping at the deadline.

If it looks like we're going to lose 1 or more of that three then Tre would probably make this deal in a heartbeat, then try and move those players that aren't extending before July 1.


Gaudreau is the only one Calgary can loose, the other 2 have to sign with the Flames (or an OS that Calgary can still match)
Nov. 26, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.
#8
Tspky
Joined: Feb. 2016
Posts: 3,580
Likes: 858
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
There is a pretty good chance he returns a 1st simply because of what he brings in post-season play as well as lack of other options. Supply and demand has a large effect at the deadline


Chiarot will not be the best defenseman on the market at the deadline, And post-season play? He had 2 points and -6 in 22 games and was a negative possession player.. not sure what you are getting at but if that's the price for Chiarot the rangers should definitely unload Nemeth for the same.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 9:36 a.m.
#9
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Quoting: Spanky227
Chiarot will not be the best defenseman on the market at the deadline, And post-season play? He had 2 points and -6 in 22 games and was a negative possession player.. not sure what you are getting at but if that's the price for Chiarot the rangers should definitely unload Nemeth for the same.


He's got 4 goals... so your statement is false from the get go...

He plays 27min a night in the playoffs... where he can get away with a lot more physicality.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 11:12 a.m.
#10
Tspky
Joined: Feb. 2016
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
He's got 4 goals... so your statement is false from the get go...

He plays 27min a night in the playoffs... where he can get away with a lot more physicality.


I was clearly talking about post season play last year. He’s such a negative possession player, it doesn’t matter how you try to spin it. He’s simply not good.
 
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