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Which of these three teams has the highest chance of claiming Matt Murray

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        Which of these three teams has the highest chance of claiming Matt Murray?
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:02 p.m.
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        I'm not sure why the Pens are an option here even a little. There's literally a 0.0% chance he winds up there.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:02 p.m.
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        There should be a none option
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:02 p.m.
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        Zero percent chance he’s claimed. No one is taking on that contract without sending one back.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
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        don't get your hopes up, if he clears waivers he might get moved but it is going to cost the sens a 1st
        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:04 p.m.
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        Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
        I'm not sure why the Pens are an option here even a little. There's literally a 0.0% chance he winds up there.


        1. Malkin is on LTIR

        2. You need to win another Cup, as long as Crosby, Malkin and Letang are still around.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:04 p.m.
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        https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/380090

        It's just that the contract makes him a pure cap dump.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:05 p.m.
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        Get your head out of the clouds, no one is claiming Matt Murray. The Sens will need to pay to move that contract.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:05 p.m.
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        Quoting: villenash
        There should be a none option


        Then everybody would vote for it.

        The question is which of the three teams listed has the highest odds of claiming Matt Murray.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:06 p.m.
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        I doubt he is claimed with that cap hit and term.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:06 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        1. Malkin is on LTIR

        2. You need to win another Cup, as long as Crosby, Malkin and Letang are still around.


        You really have no idea the Pens situation and it's very clear. You have no sound logic here what-so-ever.

        We need another cup win so the solution is a team with no cap space trading for one of the worst goalies in the league to a contract they can't afford? Makes no sense.

        Malkin is on LTIR and when he returns there's no space left. You obviously don't know how LTIR works.

        The Pens have Jarry who's a million times better and have very good goalie prospect.

        You haven't thought this out even a little.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:06 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        1. Malkin is on LTIR

        2. You need to win another Cup, as long as Crosby, Malkin and Letang are still around.


        and how exactly is matt murray helping that? the worst team in the league is waiving him.
        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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        Quoting: RClay321
        don't get your hopes up, if he clears waivers he might get moved but it is going to cost the sens a 1st


        We are not paying a Top 5 pick just to dump Matt Murray.

        Don't get your hopes up.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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        We are not paying a Top 5 pick just to dump Matt Murray.

        Don't get your hopes up.


        doesn't have to be this years, you might be able to attach brannstrom however would have to add an additional pick
        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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        Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
        and how exactly is matt murray helping that? the worst team in the league is waiving him.


        Back to back cup rings for everybody not too long ago.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
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        Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
        You really have no idea the Pens situation and it's very clear. You have no sound logic here what-so-ever.

        We need another cup win so the solution is a team with no cap space trading for one of the worst goalies in the league to a contract they can't afford? Makes no sense.

        Malkin is on LTIR and when he returns there's no space left. You obviously don't know how LTIR works.

        The Pens have Jarry who's a million times better and have very good goalie prospect.

        You haven't thought this out even a little.


        1. Matt Murray was one of Pittsburgh's greatest goalies of all time.

        There is some reason to believe he might bounce back.



        2. I do know the basics of LTIR.

        How long is Malkin out for?


        3. When was the last time Jarry won back-to-back Stanley Cups?


        4. I've thought about this enough.
        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
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        Back to back cup rings for everybody not too long ago.


        3 straight years under .900 save percentage.

        No one cares about 5 years ago
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
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        Quoting: RClay321
        doesn't have to be this years, you might be able to attach brannstrom however would have to add an additional pick


        We are not spending assets to do a cap dump when we are not up against the cap.

        Doesn't make any sense.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.
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        Then everybody would vote for it.

        The question is which of the three teams listed has the highest odds of claiming Matt Murray.


        Well all of them are a 0% probability
        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.
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        Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
        3 straight years under .900 save percentage.

        No one cares about 5 years ago


        Everybody deserves a second chance.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
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        We are not spending assets to do a cap dump when we are not up against the cap.

        Doesn't make any sense.


        it does when your owner is cheap and there are 2 more years on the contract
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
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        Quoting: villenash
        Well all of them are a 0% probability


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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
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        Quoting: RClay321
        it does when your owner is cheap and there are 2 more years on the contract


        Then we'll buy him out instead.

        It's what we did with Bobby Ryan.
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.
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        Then we'll buy him out instead.

        It's what we did with Bobby Ryan.


        that would probably be the smart thing to do instead of praying someone takes on that contact for free
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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        Quoting: RClay321
        that would probably be the smart thing to do instead of praying someone takes on that contact for free


        Some things are worth trying.

        Like placing him on waivers for the first time and giving 31 different teams the chance of a lifetime..

        Keep the faith awesome face
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        Nov. 27, 2021 at 2:26 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        1. Matt Murray was one of Pittsburgh's greatest goalies of all time.

        There is some reason to believe he might bounce back.



        2. I do know the basics of LTIR.

        How long is Malkin out for?


        3. When was the last time Jarry won back-to-back Stanley Cups?


        4. I've thought about this enough.


        The thing is the Pens simply don't need Murray. They have Jarry. It doesn't matter if he wont back to back or not, he's better than Murray and gives the Pens a better chance. Murray is just Cam Ward 2.0.

        So with LTIR the player's cap space is only available for the time they are out. It doesn't get prorated, so once the player returns the regular cap-hit returns, so to get the full benefit you'd really need a player to be out the entire season depending on what your team's overall cap situation was before. The Kucherov situation last year is the most obvious example. If Kucherov wasn't out the entire season then Tampa wouldn't have been able to have the players on the roster they were able to keep.

        If team's evaluated Murray using your logic then Ottawa wouldn't have to put him on waivers. They'd be trading him for a boat load, but they're not and it's because he's a crap goalie.
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