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Horvat for Fiala

Created by: MNBassman
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2021
Published: Nov. 29, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Horvat, Bo
  2. Hamonic, Travis
VAN
  1. Fiala, Kevin
  2. Addison, Calen
Buyouts
  • Ryan Suter: $2,371,794
  • Zach Parise: $2,371,794
Buried
  • Victor Rask: $2,875,000 ($4,000,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
SJS
MIN
2023
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2024
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,708,919$0$600,000$791,081
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MIN
Kaprizov, Kirill
$9,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
VAN
Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 2
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$3,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000
C
UFA - 8
MIN
Boldy, Matthew
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MIN
Pitlick, Rem
$917,831
C, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
$2,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Bjugstad, Nick
$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
MIN
Sturm, Nico
$725,000
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Duhaime, Brandon
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MIN
Gaudreau, Frédérick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
MIN
Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Kähkönen, Kaapo
$725,000
G
RFA - 1
MIN
Goligoski, Alex
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Talbot, Cam
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 2
MIN
Kulikov, Dmitry
$2,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Hamonic, Travis
$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Merrill, Jon
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 29, 2021 at 7:41 a.m.
#1
First NY Then LA
Joined: Jun. 2018
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What an interesting, imaginative idea. Minnesota solves the #1C problem and the Fiala re-signing challenge. I wonder if it helps Vancouver enough. I would say Yes.

Brilliant vision. Congratulations!
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Nov. 29, 2021 at 8:26 a.m.
#2
Vegan Commie Hipster
Joined: Oct. 2020
Posts: 7,888
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But Van gets the player with much more term due to RFA and Calen Addison... not to mention it's easy to make the case for horvat being overrated

Hmonic really not a fit for cap stuck minne

They're not under the cap here Confused
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Nov. 29, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
#3
Always in Pain
Joined: Oct. 2017
Posts: 22,899
Likes: 15,183
Think VAN needs a center over another winger, they're stacked with those. Also Horvat's term should be a problem for Wild, given their huge cap issues in two years time.
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Nov. 29, 2021 at 9:44 a.m.
#4
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 925
Likes: 388
If you're willing to trade Addison, you should just go for Miller. I hear that VAN wants RHD and futures. So...

Addison
Rask (to make the money work)
1st

For

Miller

Keep Fiala or trade him elsewhere
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Nov. 29, 2021 at 10:05 a.m.
#5
Thread Starter
MNBassman
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 6,209
Likes: 2,811
Quoting: Wildwinswhen
If you're willing to trade Addison, you should just go for Miller. I hear that VAN wants RHD and futures. So...

Addison
Rask (to make the money work)
1st

For

Miller

Keep Fiala or trade him elsewhere


I’d rather have Horvat.
Nov. 29, 2021 at 10:06 a.m.
#6
Thread Starter
MNBassman
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 6,209
Likes: 2,811
Quoting: Radu47
But Van gets the player with much more term due to RFA and Calen Addison... not to mention it's easy to make the case for horvat being overrated

Hmonic really not a fit for cap stuck minne

They're not under the cap here Confused


Simple fix- Rask goes on wavers, then to Iowa.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 12:43 p.m.
#7
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 925
Likes: 388
Quoting: MNBassman
I’d rather have Horvat.


Interesting! I've always preferred Miller...

Year. GP. G. A. PTS. +/- PIM

Horvat
2018-19 82 27 34 61 -4 33 |
2019-20 69 22 31 53 -15 21 |
PLAYOFFS 17 10 2 12 0 4
2020-21 56 19 20 39 -6 23 |
2021-22 23 6 6 12 -4 12 |

Miller
2018-19 75 13 34 47 8 30 |
PLAYOFFS 4 0 2 2 0 0
2019-20 69 27 45 72 11 47 |
PLAYOFFS 17 6 12 18 3 14
2020-21 53 15 31 46 -7 43 |
2021-22 23 7 13 20 -2 8 |

Ok looking at those stats, I like Horvat, too.

Kind of a tough comparison though, because Horvat gets to play against second lines and fourth lines rather than the top shutdown lines like Miller is dealing with.
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 6:27 p.m.
#8
Thread Starter
MNBassman
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Quoting: Wildwinswhen
Interesting! I've always preferred Miller...

Year. GP. G. A. PTS. +/- PIM

Horvat
2018-19 82 27 34 61 -4 33 |
2019-20 69 22 31 53 -15 21 |
PLAYOFFS 17 10 2 12 0 4
2020-21 56 19 20 39 -6 23 |
2021-22 23 6 6 12 -4 12 |

Miller
2018-19 75 13 34 47 8 30 |
PLAYOFFS 4 0 2 2 0 0
2019-20 69 27 45 72 11 47 |
PLAYOFFS 17 6 12 18 3 14
2020-21 53 15 31 46 -7 43 |
2021-22 23 7 13 20 -2 8 |

Ok looking at those stats, I like Horvat, too.

Kind of a tough comparison though, because Horvat gets to play against second lines and fourth lines rather than the top shutdown lines like Miller is dealing with.


I just think a middle of Horvat/Ek/Rossi/Sturm would be incredible - match up issues up and down the lineup for opposing coaches and the Wild could pretty much just roll 4 lines, match ups be dammed!
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 6:36 p.m.
#9
Joined: Jun. 2020
Posts: 2,082
Likes: 1,695
Quoting: MNBassman
I just think that a middle of Horvat/Ek/Rossi/Sturm would be incredible - match up issues up and down the lineup for opposing coaches and the Wild could pretty much just roll 4 lines, match ups be dammed!


1 problem...

You can't resign Horvat. It's literally the same issue as Fiala. Both are due up this year and will cost too much to resign.

This is what I would do.

Miller gives you roughly the same cost as Fiala's current cap hit, but for an additional crucial year. Which gives us until Rossi makes the team next year and doesn't have to be counted on to be the 1C right away due to Miller being there instead already.

Then, trade Greenway for Strome and a 2nd for additional center depth this year, and then move him for further assets at the draft.

Bring up Boldy, and the team can make a playoff push.

Kaprizov-Miller-Zuccarello
Foligno-JEE-Boldy
Pitlick-Strome-Hartman
Duhaime-Sturm-Bjugstad

Gaudreau = 13th forward
Rask = Waived or the 14th forward.
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 8:50 p.m.
#10
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MNBassman
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 6,209
Likes: 2,811
I would move hell and high water trying to move Zucc and Greenway in order to make Horvat fit!
 
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