Also boeser prolly won't be traded but if he does then that's the offer i'd give

As for varlamov the pick could be a 3rd instead of a 2nd, as long as the backup is competent

If Dobson is involved then the Canucks are interested 100%.

Dont see anyone paying a 2nd for Bailey, remindes me a lot of the Zucker trade which has clearly not been worth a 1st

I mean he has been struggling this year though its likely just a poor stretch seeing as we have been trash recently. And he's been great in the playoffs these last 2 years so I can see at least 1 team being interested for a 2nd but I get ur point

Regarding your question on the Kings trade, no that is not enough. Roy has been the Kings second best defenseman for the past 2 years, and that's not even taking into consideration that the other two normally rostered right-handed defenseman (Doughty and Walker) have been out for weeks with injury. Doughty is set to return soon, but Walker is out for the entire year. In a season that the Kings wanted to try to compete for a playoff spot, they're not going to hamstring their right side for a 2nd round pick.

I'd place his current value at a decent 1st round pick plus a mid-grade prospect, if you were to try to pry him away from LA. Not quite Jake Muzzin returns (1st round pick, NHL-ready prospect -Grundstrom-, and a mid-grade prospect -Durzi-), but not significantly less than that.

Roy isn't available, especially with Walker not likely to be ready for the start of next season. His surgery to repair his ACL/MCL isn't until this Wednesday, and recovery time is expected to be 1 year.

Too much for Boeser IMO

Fair enough but you gotta give up quality to get quality

I’m going to guess you were in favor of Pulock/barzal for duchene and Toews for two 2nds

Fair enough, don't think we would go for him then

was in favour of neither

Trading Dobson is a fireable offense when the isles have no one in the organization under the age of 25 with top pair upside.

It’s also bizarre asset management to trade a RD like Dobson for Boeser when Eberle is the better player and we lost him for nothing

Well pelly and pully will be our top pair for at least the next 3-4 years so within that time we could draft another young rhd or trade for one like liljegren or ryan merkley.

How did Palmieri get that contract?

That said the Canucks would almost have to do this deal, hate taking on wasted money though. IDK maybe that means the value is there.

Liljeren will top out as a 3rd pair D, , Merkley is an unknown. It’s a lot easier to find a scoring winger than a top pair RD

... liljegren is already better than a 3rd pair d lmao, he's been playing like a steady 2nd pair dman and is like a year older than dobson. Merkley will be good his skill is crazy good the issues with him can be coached. yes it is easier to find a scoring rw then a top pair dman but we need a scoring winger and we have a top pair rhd (pulock) whos in his prime.

Liljeren has played 14 games this season and doesn’t even have anywhere close to the upside Dobson has. Merkley could be good but why would the Sharks trade him unless the isles overpay.

You’re overrating Boeser, he’s not who you think he is.

I don’t see the Sabres giving away a promising young defenseman for a third round pick. Give them something they want or need if you want him.

How does one judge a defencemans upside? because for me it looks like liljegren has a lot left to give, also Merkley won't get playing time in san Jose bc burns and EK65 are there for like 4 and 6 years respectively and Wilson wouldn't play either of them bottom pair bc he doesn't wanna look stupid for signing them to that term. I think you are overrating dobson. Boeser has proven WAY more at the NHL level than dobson has, upside is one thing. over boesers previous 3 seasons assuming he played all 82 games he would have averaged 29 goals and 68 points. keep in mind he is only 24 and its all up from here.

Well, what would buffalo want from us that is fair compensation?

Probably a Young Forward with similar experience. The first name that comes to mind is Kieffer Bellows. He’s been thrown around in mock trades with the Sabres for about a year or two now, what’s one more?

Sounds fine to me

For defenseman their D+1 and D+2 seasons are very important in predicting their future. Liljeren did not show any progression in either of those seasons. Dobson was incredible in his D+1 and his analytics in the NHL during his D+2 were great for a 19 year old defenseman. There isn’t anything Liljeren does better than Dobson, they’re not even in the same conversation.

You should know by now that Lou/Trotz would never entertain brining in a small defenseman like Merkley. I think Merkley will be high end offensive D with PP 1upside, but not top pair because he is a defensive liability.

No it’s isles fans like you who need instant gratification from a player and want to trade any young player who doesn’t meet your expectations right away. 6’4 D with elite skating + two way ability don’t grow on trees.

Using points to compare Boeser to Dobson doesn’t make sense. You also forgot that Boesers finishing ability has been below average since his wrist injury a few years ago. Keep in mind that Boeser is no longer a sniper and a lot of his points are a result of playing with Pettersson. Notice how Boesers numbers are terrible this year at the same time Peterson is struggling 🤔. He’s a complimentary player. It seems like you’re the one overrating players

Brysons stock keeps climbing. We have a ton of left d, and our future at wing looks pretty decent. Goaltending should be addressed by grabbing a league average guy on the cheap. Look at who we have either here or coming soon on the wings- olofsson, tuch, quinn, peterka, asplund, possibly rosen, and im guessing at least one of krebs/thompson/mittelstadt ends up on the wing, plus i believe two of the russian kids and bloom that we just drafted. I dont see much reason to look for a winger unless you wanna add a specific skill set- tougher or faster for instance. Its a solid group on paper. Center doesnt look nearly as strong to me- i think our first this year is on a center that will be a top line center. Cozens is probably fine to pencil into the top 6. The rest im not sold on yet, but of course, you arent getting a top 6 center for jacob bryson. I suppose what makes sense to me is a right d that knows where his own zone is and maybe finishes his checks. Thats my choice.