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Top 25 Puck-Moving Defensemen

Created by: Roysboy72
Team: 2021-22 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2021
Published: Nov. 30, 2021
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As calculated by Harman Dayal and Dom Luszczyszyn of The Athletic, using metrics that measure breaking the puck out, moving it up ice, and distributing it offensively. All statistics used to calculate the results are from last season (2020-21).
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25$200,000,000$141,331,916$0$850,000$58,668,084
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Logo of the Nashville Predators
$9,059,000$9,059,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$8,800,000$8,800,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,687,500$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$8,450,000$8,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 8
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.
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Brodin not being on this list is a tough look. would've liked to see them combine this years first 20 games with last years data.
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
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Mo being in the top 5 isn't surprising given the stellar year he's having, glad to have him locked up to a reasonable cap hit

OH CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
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Maybe Dougie? Very good at moving the puck up the ice, and in the offensive zone.
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.
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Dougie Hamilton?!? Few rush more than him.
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Dougie Hamilton?!? Few rush more than him.


I agree.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:52 p.m.
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Evan Bouchard is gonna be on this list very very soon
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
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Honestly surprised Josi is number 1 considering he wasn't happy with his play last year -- and Karlsson number 2 is extremely impressive given his perceived fall from grace over the past few years.
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
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Quoting: devs68
Maybe Dougie? Very good at moving the puck up the ice, and in the offensive zone.

Quoting: NHLfan10506
Dougie Hamilton?!? Few rush more than him.

Just checked the lists for each stat and he never shows up on any of them. I don't know what Hamilton's numbers are for each category, but he must either be finding ways to move the puck that aren't measured/measurable or he just isn't in the upper echelon of puck-movers. 200+ defensemen are playing in the NHL, I guess he just isn't part of that top 12.5% when it comes to puck-moving. Still a damn good defenseman though.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 2:06 p.m.
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Just checked the lists for each stat and he never shows up on any of them. I don't know what Hamilton's numbers are for each category, but he must either be finding ways to move the puck that aren't measured/measurable or he just isn't in the upper echelon of puck-movers. 200+ defensemen are playing in the NHL, I guess he just isn't part of that top 12.5% when it comes to puck-moving. Still a damn good defenseman though.


Most Rush Attempts (d-men) over last three years:
1. Hamilton
2. Burns
3. Hedman

(source: Natural Statrick)
Nov. 30, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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thought hughes would be higher
Nov. 30, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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Where is Carlson
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Most Rush Attempts (d-men) over last three years:
1. Hamilton
2. Burns
3. Hedman

(source: Natural Statrick)

I don't believe they used rush attempts in the dataset, but the statistics they did use are transition numbers between each zone (volume and efficiency) as well as slot passes in the offensive zone. Also, I don't think rush attempts would be a very good determinant of a puck-moving defenseman, as it only measures shot attempts on the rush. A puck-moving defenseman is usually defined by the ability to transition the puck up the ice and distribute it effectively once it reaches the offensive zone, so I don't see how rush attempts would be very helpful when measuring that ability.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.
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Where is Carlson

Based on the numbers, it looks like Orlov takes the main responsibility of moving the puck so Carlson can take over once it reaches the O-zone.
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 2:44 p.m.
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I don't believe they used rush attempts in the dataset, but the statistics they did use are transition numbers between each zone (volume and efficiency) as well as slot passes in the offensive zone. Also, I don't think rush attempts would be a very good determinant of a puck-moving defenseman, as it only measures shot attempts on the rush. A puck-moving defenseman is usually defined by the ability to transition the puck up the ice and distribute it effectively once it reaches the offensive zone, so I don't see how rush attempts would be very helpful when measuring that ability.


Me: "few rush more than him"
You: "I just checked for that stat and he didn't show up"
Me: [link to stats]

Hamilton's exit passing is not his strength as much as his rushing.
But still one piece to the puzzle.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 2:52 p.m.
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Me: "few rush more than him"
You: "I just checked for that stat and he didn't show up"
Me: [link to stats]

Hamilton's exit passing is not his strength as much as his rushing.
But still one piece to the puzzle.

You do know I was talking about the stats used on the Athletic article, right? They didn't use that stat, and he didn't break the top 25 in any of the transitional categories that they did use. Hamilton is elite on the rush, yes, but that's not what was measured here. Again, this list was ripped from an article on The Athletic, I have no connection to the creation of this ranking.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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You do know I was talking about the stats used on the Athletic article, right? They didn't use that stat, and he didn't break the top 25 in any of the transitional categories that they did use. Hamilton is elite on the rush, yes, but that's not what was measured here. Again, this list was ripped from an article on The Athletic, I have no connection to the creation of this ranking.


Got it now...been in a fog today.

Like to see this. Ranks on "Entry Efficiency"

1. Damon Severson
2. Quinn Hughes
3. Cale Makar
4. Roman Josi
5. Rasmus Dahlin
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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Got it now...been in a fog today.

Like to see this. Ranks on "Entry Efficiency"

1. Damon Severson
2. Quinn Hughes
3. Cale Makar
4. Roman Josi
5. Rasmus Dahlin

It's interesting, the different ways defensemen achieve the same goal. For instance, nearly 75% of Severson's entries are pass entries (as opposed to carry entries) compared to only about 34% for Josi. They're both among the best in the league in zone entries, yet they go about it in completely different ways.
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