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Problem Solving If Melnyk will get off his wallet

Created by: wizardofozzyip
Published: Nov. 30, 2021 at 3:53 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 150/200 (75%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Monahan, SeanCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,781,250111---0000
Välimäki, JuusoWaivers ExemptCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,162,500111---0000
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fiala, KevinMinnesota WildNHL50%$1,912,500111---0000
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$304,4512347723610
Change$4,031,250-1-1-1000
Final$4,335,701 (↑)22 (↓)46 (↓)71 (↓)3610000

Minnesota WildMinnesota Wild

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fiala, KevinMinnesota WildNHL50%$1,912,500111---0000
2022 3rd round pick (Minnesota WildMIN)------------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Välimäki, JuusoWaivers ExemptCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,162,500111---0000
Brännström, ErikWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsIR-$647,499011---0000
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,250,0062344623612
Change$102,5010110-10
Final$2,352,507 (↑)2345 (↑)63 (↑)35 (↓)12000

Ottawa SenatorsOttawa Senators

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Brännström, ErikWaivers ExemptOttawa SenatorsIR-$647,499011---0000
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Monahan, SeanCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,781,250111---0000
2022 3rd round pick (Minnesota WildMIN)------------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$11,281,2622146653914
Change-$4,133,751100010
Final$7,147,511 (↓)22 (↑)4665310 (↑)14000
Nov. 30, 2021 at 4:07 p.m.
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Im pretty sure Flames take this and run
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Nov. 30, 2021 at 4:55 p.m.
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I just don't see the return enough for Minnesota to do this, maybe have ottawa throw some more in
Nov. 30, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: YoungPattyKane
I just don't see the return enough for Minnesota to do this, maybe have ottawa throw some more in


Yeah, the return for Minny looks real suspect to me too
Nov. 30, 2021 at 5:05 p.m.
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That's not enough for Minnesota, tbh. We are getting two prospects far from sure things while giving away a 30-goal scorer.
Nov. 30, 2021 at 5:16 p.m.
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This is absolutely nit from Minnesota. Minnesota has zero interest in Sean Monahan. None
Nov. 30, 2021 at 5:38 p.m.
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Monahan is off to the Sens in this proposal, probably understated Fiala's value here also. Calgary adding a 1st could make things more reasonable? Or a 2nd from Calgary and Ottawa, while Minny keeps the 3rd rounder. Calgary giving up too much at that point though. Real life trading seems so impossible and hopeless after playing around with this tool all day though haha
Nov. 30, 2021 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: CAPDumba
This is absolutely nit from Minnesota. Minnesota has zero interest in Sean Monahan. None


Have you looked at who Monahan is actually going to? Its Ottawa
Nov. 30, 2021 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Have you looked at who Monahan is actually going to? Its Ottawa


OK erik k wouldn't play on Minnesota. Minnesota has zero need for jusso valma when wild just drafted two good d prospect last year, and two this year
Nov. 30, 2021 at 7:02 p.m.
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Quoting: wizardofozzyip
Monahan is off to the Sens in this proposal, probably understated Fiala's value here also. Calgary adding a 1st could make things more reasonable? Or a 2nd from Calgary and Ottawa, while Minny keeps the 3rd rounder. Calgary giving up too much at that point though. Real life trading seems so impossible and hopeless after playing around with this tool all day though haha



You should probably look up Minnesota d prospect core. Take out both d prospect because they aren't needed, or wanted, and add alot more
Dec. 2, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Yeah, the return for Minny looks real suspect to me too


Quoting: EccE
That's not enough for Minnesota, tbh. We are getting two prospects far from sure things while giving away a 30-goal scorer.


I am trying to imagine the conversation with Guerin if this trade were proposed right now... Probably something like this...

Treliving: Pierre - this is never gonna work...
Dorion: Shut up Brad... It'll be fine... Guerin is new at this.....
Treliving: ... Ok... But I don't think...
Dorion: .... Its ringing.... Shut up!....
--- ring --- ring ----
Guerin: Hello?
Dorion: Hi Billy, I've got Brad from Calgary on the line and we have a deal for you...
Guerin: I'm listening
Dorion: Brad is going to move Valimaki and Monahan. I am looking to move Brannstrom. We're looking to get Fiala involved...
Guerin: I'm not sure there's enough to work with here...
Treliving: Well there would be retained salary and a third rounder involved...
Guerin: Ok... So.. I get Monahan at 50% salary for Fiala, Pierre gets Vali and a 3rd for Bran..., Brad ends up with Fiala and Bran...
Guerin: Seems like two separate trades... Why is Pierre on the line? Am I missing something...?
Dorion: ..... Um..... Yeah... No..... Ah.... That's not exactly what we had in mind.... You would be giving up the third rounder...
Guerin: .... Hmmm... Fiala and a third for Monahan is steep... Even if Monahan is at 50%....
Treliving: .... Well this is awkward... See Pierre... I told you... This won't work
Dorion: ... Shut up Brad....
Guerin: What is awkward? What won't work?
Dorion: You're right Billy... Brad gets Fiala.... but I would be getting Monahan and your third... Monahan is at full price though.
Guerin: And I get two injured d-men that have played 10 games total this year for half price? I don't think so...
Treliving: Vali isn't injured. He's just been a healthy scratch for 14 of 22 games this season. So, no he's not hurt. He's just not good enough to make the lineup...
Dorion: Brad you are not helping....
Guerin: .... (rolls eyes)...Even better... Sorry guys... Even if you're willing to retain max salary on both players, I'm out on this one...
Treliving: Should we even tell him?
Dorion: No... Just hang up...
Guerin: What? Tell me what?
Treliving: We... ah... sort of thought... ah.... maybe that... um.... You would be the one retaining salary... you know... on Fiala....
--- click ----
Dorion: I think he hung up...
Treliving: I told you he wouldn't do it. What the hell is that noise? Do you hear that?
Dorion: I hear it too... No idea what it is... Sounds like it is coming from outside...
--- The sound of Guerin's thunderous laughter echoes across Canada from Calgary all the way to Ottawa ---
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Dec. 2, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: UncleChucker
I am trying to imagine the conversation with Guerin if this trade were proposed right now... Probably something like this...

Treliving: Pierre - this is never gonna work...
Dorion: Shut up Brad... It'll be fine... Guerin is new at this.....
Treliving: ... Ok... But I don't think...
Dorion: .... Its ringing.... Shut up!....
--- ring --- ring ----
Guerin: Hello?
Dorion: Hi Billy, I've got Brad from Calgary on the line and we have a deal for you...
Guerin: I'm listening
Dorion: Brad is going to move Valimaki and Monahan. I am looking to move Brannstrom. We're looking to get Fiala involved...
Guerin: I'm not sure there's enough to work with here...
Treliving: Well there would be retained salary and a third rounder involved...
Guerin: Ok... So.. I get Monahan at 50% salary for Fiala, Pierre gets Vali and a 3rd for Bran..., Brad ends up with Fiala and Bran...
Guerin: Seems like two separate trades... Why is Pierre on the line? Am I missing something...?
Dorion: ..... Um..... Yeah... No..... Ah.... That's not exactly what we had in mind.... You would be giving up the third rounder...
Guerin: .... Hmmm... Fiala and a third for Monahan is steep... Even if Monahan is at 50%....
Treliving: .... Well this is awkward... See Pierre... I told you... This won't work
Dorion: ... Shut up Brad....
Guerin: What is awkward? What won't work?
Dorion: You're right Billy... Brad gets Fiala.... but I would be getting Monahan and your third... Monahan is at full price though.
Guerin: And I get two injured d-men that have played 10 games total this year for half price? I don't think so...
Treliving: Vali isn't injured. He's just been a healthy scratch for 14 of 22 games this season. So, no he's not hurt. He's just not good enough to make the lineup...
Dorion: Brad you are not helping....
Guerin: .... (rolls eyes)...Even better... Sorry guys... Even if you're willing to retain max salary on both players, I'm out on this one...
Treliving: Should we even tell him?
Dorion: No... Just hang up...
Guerin: What? Tell me what?
Treliving: We... ah... sort of thought... ah.... maybe that... um.... You would be the one retaining salary... you know... on Fiala....
--- click ----
Dorion: I think he hung up...
Treliving: I told you he wouldn't do it. What the hell is that noise? Do you hear that?
Dorion: I hear it too... No idea what it is... Sounds like it is coming from outside...
--- The sound of Guerin's thunderous laughter echoes across Canada from Calgary all the way to Ottawa ---


This is amazing, thank you! grin
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:58 a.m.
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Quoting: EccE
This is amazing, thank you! grin


Yeah.... That one sort of went down the rabbit hole.... I was just trying to imagine how that conversation would evolve... I think I got pretty close.
 
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