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New Jersey Devils signed Jack Hughes (8 Years / $8,000,000 AAV)

Was this a good signing?
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Dec. 2, 2021 at 9:08 a.m.
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Could be a great deal, could be a meh deal but I dont think itll ever be a terrible deal.

Do I think giving a kid with around 100 career games 8x8 is a good idea? not really BUT if Hughes takes the next step (which it looks like he's about to) then this contract will be fine

But before devils fans start comparing his contract to Mac's or Leon's Id suggest slowing your role and winning a few games first

pssst btw Mercer is elite and don't let anyone tell you different
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Dec. 2, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.
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For those who are voting no, what are y’all smoking? Hughes is going to be a top 5 centreman in the league, this contract will be an absolute steal in a couple years
Dec. 2, 2021 at 1:52 p.m.
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I meant "goals" not "games"... 55 career goals...

Im gonna blame my autocorrect on this one even if I might be the one who screwed up...


Ooooooohhh. Okay that makes sense. I was really confused.
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Dec. 2, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I think it has less to do with NJD and more to do with MTL haters. I don't think there's been a trade or higher salary signing on this site that Montreal has won


For the record while I also think this is a bad or at least very risky contract the big difference is age.

Hughes 2 seasons were 18 and 19, Suzuki joined the NHL at 20.

But yeah people certainly have biased perspectives.

I don't love the Suzuki contract, but I certainly don't hate it. I kinda feel like he deserved 6.875 but got that extra million after the Habs got scared with the KK debacle (which they made the right decision by not signing).
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Dec. 2, 2021 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: CJets
For those who are voting no, what are y’all smoking? Hughes is going to be a top 5 centreman in the league, this contract will be an absolute steal in a couple years


Because it's a gamble. He has a tonne of pedigree and at times has shown his potential in the NHL. But flipside is he's played 2 years and hasn't consistently put it up yet.

Jersey took a gamble. There is no way to deny it. You think it's a good one. Others don't.
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Dec. 2, 2021 at 3:36 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
I meant "goals" not "games"... 55 career goals...

Im gonna blame my autocorrect on this one even if I might be the one who screwed up...


He has 20 career goals. Where are you getting 55 from?
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Dec. 2, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
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Congrats New Jersey fans! You all have an exciting future.


this profile picture is on point! tears of joy
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 3:47 p.m.
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As a Rangers fan, I have never been more overjoyed in my life.

What is their GM doing?
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:01 p.m.
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Jesus Christ this is massive
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.
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As a Rangers fan, I have never been more overjoyed in my life.

What is their GM doing?


I wonder what Chris Drury doing?
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Brian2016
If only Devils fans responded to this poll, it'd be 95% "Yes."

Many of the same people that voted "No" for Hughes, probably voted "Yes" for Pettersson, who received nearly 95% "Yes" votes. If that poll were taken again today, I doubt it'd be over 50%. Stats can be very deceptive.


I think if you asked Devils fans, they’d say, “you had me at eight years”

I’d also like to see how that poll would break out between people that have watched him play vs people who just look at points.

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Not sure when Devils fans bashed Suzuki's contract


Wasn’t me. I loved that deal for Habs.

Quoting: gary_bettman

*Cough Subban, Hamilton Hughes Cough*


Subban’s cap hit isn’t a factor. And the other two are deals for which Devils are most proud.

Quoting: CD282
He has virtually no chance of becoming an "elite 1C" in the vein of McDavid, Draisaitl, Crosby, MacKinnon, Barkov, Aho, Malkin, Matthews etc.

I just don't see any scenario where this contract could be a "steal". If he hits his ceiling it would be considered fair pay. He's never going to be listed in the top 8 or so centers in the league.


“No chance of becoming elite”

Devils have one of the most analytics-driven approaches in the league (If not, the most). Much of Hughes value (or perceived value) comes from his ability to possession the puck and control the play, which is not reflected through point totals yet. I am sure, by now, people have data that reflects this.

Analytics is only part of the puzzle. But saying he has, “zero chance of becoming an elite center” is really just an attack on the measurement tools teams use to value players.

In other words, if one buys what the data says, then agree his metrics are already “elite”. But if you think the quants are a bunch of snake-oil salesmen, just say that.
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: CJets
For those who are voting no, what are y’all smoking? Hughes is going to be a top 5 centreman in the league, this contract will be an absolute steal in a couple years


They are debating old-world methods through a new age medium.
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Jan. 6 at 11:06 p.m.
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This is aging beautifully
Jan. 7 at 1:12 a.m.
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This is aging beautifully


I was just thinking that tears of joy
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Jan. 7 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
I was just thinking that tears of joy


People really thought a 20 year old former first overall pick who has great analytics and great two way game wouldn’t develop😂

Also speaking of Jack Hughes, we need to work out a trade in fantasy. Jack for Hedman?
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Jan. 7 at 2:14 p.m.
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what you guys don't understand is jack hughes is small boy and kakko is an absolute chad. do you remember when kakko put little jacky in a headlock at world juniors? (wow) I already arranged for kakko to meet my wife at our local truck-stop. dont forget to drink your ovaltine folks or you will end up a small beta-boy like jack
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Jan. 7 at 5:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
People really thought a 20 year old former first overall pick who has great analytics and great two way game wouldn’t develop😂

Also speaking of Jack Hughes, we need to work out a trade in fantasy. Jack for Hedman?


Nah I think I'm good. My defensive group is ok.
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Jan. 8 at 5:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Brian2016
If only Devils fans responded to this poll, it'd be 95% "Yes."

Many of the same people that voted "No" for Hughes, probably voted "Yes" for Pettersson, who received nearly 95% "Yes" votes. If that poll were taken again today, I doubt it'd be over 50%. Stats can be very deceptive.


Pettersson's slump won't last forever, he'll come out of it
Mar. 7 at 2:31 a.m.
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Hughes is already worth $8M AAV. And his contract hasn't even kicked in yet. This vote should've been 142-0. Go figure!
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May 9 at 12:47 a.m.
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56 points in 49 games.

That's 1.14 points as a 20 year old.

He's not even in the first year of his eight year contract...
 
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