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Could this work as a base

Created by: Caniac2000
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 1, 2021
Published: Dec. 1, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Carolina Hurricanes
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This is just as a base, does this make sense? Both guys are out of contract at the end of the year, yes DeBrusk is far younger, but Trocheck is far better.
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  1. DeBrusk, Jake
BOS
  1. Trocheck, Vincent
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$79,542,785$0$1,037,500$1,957,215
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Svechnikov, Andrei
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Aho, Sebastian
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C, LW
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Teräväinen, Teuvo
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Niederreiter, Nino
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Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$6,100,035
C, LW
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Jarvis, Seth
$894,167
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DeBrusk, Jake
$3,675,000
LW
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Staal, Jordan
$6,000,000
C, LW
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Necas, Martin
$863,333
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Lorentz, Steven
$725,000
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Stepan, Derek
$1,350,000
C
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Fast, Jesper
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Slavin, Jaccob
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Cole, Ian
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Andersen, Frederik
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Skjei, Brady
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Smith, Brendan
$800,000
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Raanta, Antti
$2,000,000
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Lajoie, Maxime
$750,000
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Chatfield, Jalen
$750,000
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Martinook, Jordan
$1,800,000
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Pesce, Brett
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RD
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Gardiner, Jake
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Deangelo, Anthony
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Bear, Ethan
$2,000,000
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Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:05 p.m.
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I can't see CAR considering this deal at all -- Trocheck has been a perfect 2C, so I don't see them wanting to trade him when they have a real shot at the cup this year.
Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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Done and done. Doubt Carolina feels the same way.
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Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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debrusk+2022 1st+ 2023 3rd?
how much more would you want in return?
Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.
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Sure but what's the rest
Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:37 p.m.
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Sending out west to Seattle might be better.
Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.
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Quoting: villenash
I can't see CAR considering this deal at all -- Trocheck has been a perfect 2C, so I don't see them wanting to trade him when they have a real shot at the cup this year.


He was great last year. He's not had the same success this year. We're at the point where our best center right now is... Jesperi Kotkaniemi. No, I'm being serious.
Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Dekes
debrusk+2022 1st+ 2023 3rd?
how much more would you want in return?


I’d do that from a Canes perspective
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Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:58 p.m.
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Your deal is bad
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Visually, Trocheck has been very rough this season (he still has good numbers minus points), but I would like to see KK fill his role admirably before sending him off
Dec. 1, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
He was great last year. He's not had the same success this year. We're at the point where our best center right now is... Jesperi Kotkaniemi. No, I'm being serious.


KK has had a couple of good games, sure, but he's not your best center. He's not even top 3 on this team -- just because he's played a few good games doesn't change that. And even if Trocheck has struggled, he's still on pace for 50+ points -- what more do you want from your 2C?
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Dec. 1, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.
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KK has had a couple of good games, sure, but he's not your best center. He's not even top 3 on this team -- just because he's played a few good games doesn't change that. And even if Trocheck has struggled, he's still on pace for 50+ points -- what more do you want from your 2C?


Ever since KK moved to C (3 weeks ago now) he's held a steady 0.75 PPG rate and has goals in his last 3, 4 points in those games. He's been SO good since moving over, and right now, he's the best FORWARD on the team regardless. He's been SO good
Dec. 1, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Ever since KK moved to C (3 weeks ago now) he's held a steady 0.75 PPG rate and has goals in his last 3, 4 points in those games. He's been SO good since moving over, and right now, he's the best FORWARD on the team regardless. He's been SO good


You don't trade your established 2C because you have another guy that had 3 good games...
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Dec. 1, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.
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You don't trade your established 2C because you have another guy that had 3 good games...


I'd argue Trocheck isn't an established 2C. Right now, Staal's displaced him. KK's been good for the last 9 and has 7 points. This is since moving to center. KK's also established himself as a capable middle six C when he was in Montreal, this isn't like it's a risk. Trocheck is not performing.
Dec. 1, 2021 at 8:36 p.m.
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For Carolina, no it does not make sense even as a base. I hope it is just temporary you being out of your mind. You aren't one of those who can't stand success are you lol?
Dec. 1, 2021 at 9:46 p.m.
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For Carolina, no it does not make sense even as a base. I hope it is just temporary you being out of your mind. You aren't one of those who can't stand success are you lol?


No, but moving Trocheck right now makes a lot of sense. Carolina won't sign a big payday long term. He's struggling and KK is ready for a bigger role. Give him a few games with Trocheck around to be sure, but this very much looks like a case of when Trocheck is moved. Especially since the Canes are sniffing around DeBrusk
 
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