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Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2021
Published: Dec. 2, 2021
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  2. Lehkonen, Artturi ($1,000,000 retained)
  3. Price, Carey ($2,500,000 retained)
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Lol if you think the hamburgler and price are the same….smh


if you think price is still the same goalie he was 3 year ago... smh
Dec. 3, 2021 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
last couple of games vs the last couple years? nah, dont be daft.

you're the one saying he's amazing in the playoffs but are forgetting the asterisks that he sucked in the final. the most important time for him to be good. he was sub .900


Have you watched any of his games the past few years? Or just go strictly based on stats ? I’m not sitting here saying he’s the best in the league but for everyone to sit here and say he’s trash and Montreal would have to pay to get rid of him is complete nonsense at most they would have to retain 2.5 M of his contract price at 8 M dollars is very good value
Dec. 3, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.
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Have you watched any of his games the past few years? Or just go strictly based on stats ? I’m not sitting here saying he’s the best in the league but for everyone to sit here and say he’s trash and Montreal would have to pay to get rid of him is complete nonsense at most they would have to retain 2.5 M of his contract price at 8 M dollars is very good value


he's not trash but lets not act like he's a $10.5m goalie either and lets not act like he hasn't been declining for a couple of years either. he's signed to 2 years too many. if he had a different contract it would be a different story. erik karlsson has a **** contract but is still a good dman but sharks fans aren't acting like he's worth the moon.
Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
And yet you're trying to talk smack by implying that people shouldn't debate trades on a trade board.
Mature as heck, eh boss?


Trying to talk smack? No. Implying that you’re whining because people are disagreeing with you, yes. Maturity is not given, it’s earned. Be better buddyboy
Dec. 3, 2021 at 1:05 p.m.
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Trying to talk smack? No. Implying that you’re whining because people are disagreeing with you, yes. Maturity is not given, it’s earned. Be better buddyboy


Lol, dude literally posts a childish 'im gonna mock you' jab and you call me childish for calling him childish. That's funny as hell
Dec. 3, 2021 at 1:54 p.m.
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Lol, dude literally posts a childish 'im gonna mock you' jab and you call me childish for calling him childish. That's funny as hell


smack talk inception. Get on my level 🤓
Dec. 3, 2021 at 4:21 p.m.
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if you think price is still the same goalie he was 3 year ago... smh


0.924% save percentage in the playoffs last year with an injury….
Dec. 3, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Lochness1202
0.924% save percentage in the playoffs last year with an injury….


how was his regular season? or regular season and playoffs combined? if he comes with 4 more years you can't go off of one hot streak.
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 9:10 p.m.
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how was his regular season? or regular season and playoffs combined? if he comes with 4 more years you can't go off of one hot streak.


I mean price does have more than one hot playoff run let’s be honest….
Dec. 3, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Lochness1202
I mean price does have more than one hot playoff run let’s be honest….


he's got more than one bad season too. he's declining.
Dec. 4, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
he's got more than one bad season too. he's declining.

Lol ok agree to disagree. I mean, if healthy, he’s the starting goalie for team Canada so he still has value with a retention of salary by Montreal. Imagine telling mcdavid he can have a healthy price in nets instead of 41 year old smith, Koskinen, or skinner. I’m sure he’d like that
Dec. 4, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Lol ok agree to disagree. I mean, if healthy, he’s the starting goalie for team Canada so he still has value with a retention of salary by Montreal. Imagine telling mcdavid he can have a healthy price in nets instead of 41 year old smith, Koskinen, or skinner. I’m sure he’d like that


he shouldn't be based on play there are better options.

i dont think mcdavid wants price.
Dec. 4, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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he shouldn't be based on play there are better options.

i dont think mcdavid wants price.


Lol yes mcdavid would want price at 7M versus Koskinen at 4.5M or smith at 40 years old. I can guarantee you that.
Dec. 4, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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Lol yes mcdavid would want price at 7M versus Koskinen at 4.5M or smith at 40 years old. I can guarantee you that.


nah oilers are finally getting bad contracts off the books he wouldn't want anything to do with price.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 7:23 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
it's called a hot streak. goalies sometimes do that. remember when the hamburglar got ottawa into the playoffs years ago. no one was saying he was worth the moon.

Emery you mean Emery
Hammond was a ECF run not a SCF
You're ignoring the Context and the Roster they skated vs the roster we skated.

Even 2017 ECF it was Anderson not Hamburgler getting them there
Hamburgler has 5 playoff appearances with 1 win and his only hot streak got them to the playoffs eliminated in 6 games in a weak run

Whatever point you were trying to make exposed your memory as shakey at best as you remember the start of his run but not how it ended so harshly
Dec. 5, 2021 at 7:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Lochness1202
I mean price does have more than one hot playoff run let’s be honest….


To be fair Dangle is looking at Regular Season Stats which its true he's declined from top 3 Goalie status to top 20 goalie status in that regard 100%
But his playoff numbers during his prime years are actually worse then those numbers he's had the past 5 years

The context is Price isnt built 65-70 games anymore and is at the point in his career being a stand alone starter isnt an option
Its like finding out Superman is allergic to Kryptonite. Just because the fascade of him being immortal is gone doesnt make him any less Awesome
Is he worth 10.5m ? no
But after Subban got 3m over market value from MTL when Molson stepped in during declining talks with Subban/MB and gave him the max ask.
Had our Management not overpaid Subban i think Price is sitting at 8.5m cap hit and no one's freaking out this much
Dec. 5, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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Emery you mean Emery
Hammond was a ECF run not a SCF
You're ignoring the Context and the Roster they skated vs the roster we skated.

Even 2017 ECF it was Anderson not Hamburgler getting them there
Hamburgler has 5 playoff appearances with 1 win and his only hot streak got them to the playoffs eliminated in 6 games in a weak run

Whatever point you were trying to make exposed your memory as shakey at best as you remember the start of his run but not how it ended so harshly


nope hammond. had a hot streak and came back down to earth just like price.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 10:15 a.m.
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nope hammond. had a hot streak and came back down to earth just like price.


Look it up i'll wait
His Hot streak was a Regular season one winning 20-1-2 his first full year in the league at 26(thats why everyone hyped it so hard)
A guy with only 5 career playoff games and 1 win cannot be used in this context as an example

Saying he can should earn you a time out lol

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/hammoan01.html
Dec. 5, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
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nope hammond. had a hot streak and came back down to earth just like price.


So in Context how is that "just like Price"

Kid entered the league 20-1-2 while Price entered the league and Struggled.
Hammond had a hot start retired by 29
Price had a slow start Hart,Jennings,Person and Vezina Trophies by his 27th birthday

Price has declined in Regular Season as you've clearly latched onto creating a fiction you cant give up on.
But in the same way his numbers decline the last 5 years in the regular season they've improved in the Post season with 4/5 of Price's best Playoff performances coming in that same period.

You lack Context so you'll never understand the big picture
You dont challenge yourself to be right just to appear as if you are no matter how much it undermine's your Credibility.

Just saying you make stuff up alot
Even this mythical scenario in which you pretend Hammond went on a long playoff run just like Price so it gives you are reason to undercut Price.
I mean its like someone comparing Apples and Orange's
Dec. 5, 2021 at 10:54 a.m.
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So in Context how is that "just like Price"

Kid entered the league 20-1-2 while Price entered the league and Struggled.
Hammond had a hot start retired by 29
Price had a slow start Hart,Jennings,Person and Vezina Trophies by his 27th birthday

Price has declined in Regular Season as you've clearly latched onto creating a fiction you cant give up on.
But in the same way his numbers decline the last 5 years in the regular season they've improved in the Post season with 4/5 of Price's best Playoff performances coming in that same period.

You lack Context so you'll never understand the big picture
You dont challenge yourself to be right just to appear as if you are no matter how much it undermine's your Credibility.

Just saying you make stuff up alot
Even this mythical scenario in which you pretend Hammond went on a long playoff run just like Price so it gives you are reason to undercut Price.
I mean its like someone comparing Apples and Orange's


not his whole career just their similar hot steak. you're trying to make it into something it's not. it's well acknowledged price is declining so im not sure why you are trying to argue that.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
not his whole career just their similar hot steak. you're trying to make it into something it's not. it's well acknowledged price is declining so im not sure why you are trying to argue that.


He said without a hint of irony
This is why you'll never learn
No Personal Accountability
You'd rather be percieved as Right then Knowledgable.

4/5 top playoff performances came in those years his numbers dipped in the Regular Season
Issue is you dont seek out Context calling it a Decline even though he had his best year to Finish where it counted SMH
In all walks of life Newtons 3rd law of motion comes into play
It teaches you not only that life has Context but that ignoring it will only hurt you
Dec. 5, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.
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He said without a hint of irony
This is why you'll never learn
No Personal Accountability
You'd rather be percieved as Right then Knowledgable.

4/5 top playoff performances came in those years his numbers dipped in the Regular Season
Issue is you dont seek out Context calling it a Decline even though he had his best year to Finish where it counted SMH
In all walks of life Newtons 3rd law of motion comes into play
It teaches you not only that life has Context but that ignoring it will only hurt you


hes declining and getting old it's a bad combo given his contract. even if he has better playoffs hes still getting worse as a player. you're selling a lemon
Dec. 5, 2021 at 11:49 a.m.
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hes declining and getting old it's a bad combo given his contract. even if he has better playoffs hes still getting worse as a player. you're selling a lemon


Re-read that sentence then enter Rehab
You sound drunk
Everyone gets old and declines period
Price's state of decline isnt concerning at all but more like Brodeur's
Everyone **** talked Marty for years but he put up his best numbers i think as 34-35 and went to a SCF at i think 39?
Tim Thomas was a nobody who took off at 31 becoming a starter who won 2 Vezina's , Conn Smythe and a SC by by age 37 i believe

Goalies Mature different then Skaters.


Your statement is "just because he's better in the playoffs where it matters doesnt mean he's got value "
There's not a coach in the league that goes "well i dont know "
They'd just laugh and say "that's why there's a Back Up Goalie Position"

What matters is come playoffs
As far as how much he made thats on Molson for interfering in Subban trade talks because they were going bad and MB was ready to move Subban.
Molson interfered and gave him his full ask

What can you do ?
Why would Price take less given he at this time carried the team for most of a decade.
Is he over paid ? Yup
Does that mean even in his decline he has not Value? Nope

Most of his Contract is Signing Bonus actually like 80% and paid 45.75m/70m of his signing bonus's with 7/14m base salary in the first 4 years.
His Contract becomes less scary from this point out and while the cap hit is high who doesn MTL have to pay really ?
Our 2 biggest young guns we were worried about collecting are both underachieving .
We're rebuilding now and Price/Primeau tandem will be the difference between another year like this or actually competing .

Price may not make sense to some
But to those who watch him play not just read sports stats out of Context
We see the Value in Price even as he gets older
Fans even when they demand everyone be held accountable always give 2 players a pass
Gallagher and Price because when they've been out/injured we've had historically crappy starts.(this is the worst one yet but we've had some bad ones under Therrien/Julien they called historic as well)
They may be paid a lot but that's because they're Quality Players (this isnt a Neal /Skinner situation where a team feals cheated right after signing a deal. We got what we expected out of it)
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Re-read that sentence then enter Rehab
You sound drunk

Your statement is "just because he's better in the playoffs where it matters doesnt mean he's got value "
There's not a coach in the league that goes "well i dont know "
They'd just laugh and say "that's why there's a Back Up Goalie Position"

What matters is come playoffs
As far as how much he made thats on Molson for interfering in Subban trade talks because they were going bad and MB was ready to move Subban.
Molson interfered and gave him his full ask

What can you do ?
Why would Price take less given he at this time carried the team for most of a decade.
Is he over paid ? Yup
Does that mean even in his decline he has not Value? Nope

Most of his Contract is Signing Bonus actually like 80% and paid 45.75m/70m of his signing bonus's with 7/14m base salary in the first 4 years.
His Contract becomes less scary from this point out and while the cap hit is high who doesn MTL have to pay really ?
Our 2 biggest young guns we were worried about collecting are both underachieving .
We're rebuilding now and Price/Primeau tandem will be the difference between another year like this or actually competing .

Price may not make sense to some
But to those who watch him play not just read sports stats out of Context
We see the Value in Price even as he gets older
Fans even when they demand everyone be held accountable always give 2 players a pass
Gallagher and Price because when they've been out/injured we've had historically crappy starts.(this is the worst one yet but we've had some bad ones under Therrien/Julien they called historic as well)
They may be paid a lot but that's because they're Quality Players (this isnt a Neal /Skinner situation where a team feals cheated right after signing a deal. We got what we expected out of it)


you keep saying he had a good playoffs but he choked in the finals. cost the habs. when you take his entire seasons, regular and playoff, into account hes declining. no 9ne wants an old declining player on one of the worst contracts in the league. there's a reason why he was passed over for free. no one in the league wanted to best cale fleury for him.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
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you keep saying he had a good playoffs but he choked in the finals. cost the habs. when you take his entire seasons, regular and playoff, hes declining. no 9ne wants an old declining player on one of the worst contracts in the league. there's a reason why he was passed over for free. no one in the league wanted to best cale fleury for him.


No the Habs choked in the finals
Petry got his Finger jamed in the Camera's little door and hasnt scored a goal since to this day
Weber was already playing injured
Stop saying stupid ****

You sound like a drunk trying to explain how its the worlds fault you're this way
Price before all the injuries piled up stood on his head and did again in TBL

But ontop of being injured we took dumb penalty after dumb penalty giving a lethal PP a chance to screw Price.
He didnt choke you're just to drunk or high to get hockey so you just latch onto someone to blame as its what you're used to doing
 
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