That Devils trade makes 0 sense

Makes a lot of sense to me actually

Boeser, Chiasson.
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to
(I guess)

It's terrible

Severson >>>> Myers
Bastian = Chaisson (Chaisson is producing more but Bastian is much younger)

Ya nah the only trade here that makes sense is the blues one

DAL passes. No one aside from Benning is touching that OEL contract.

Myers is an offensive defenseman just like Severson. I think both guys have their warts defensively, and Severson doesn't look like a top pairing D-man anymore. Everybody just fixates about Myers' warts defensively and nobody appreciates his offensive tangibles, such as his ability to carry the puck, enter the offensive zone, or hold the blueline



I don't care about age difference between two league minimum players, the bottom line for me is the simple fact that Bastian was put on waivers





Lindell is overpaid too, but of course he has just 4 years remaining as opposed to OEL's 6 years, aside from the AAV difference. The 2nd and 4th rounders are sweeteners of course, and you do know that OEL is at least playing well right now

Lindell's a bit overpaid yes, but it's nothing compared to OEL. He plays every PP and is an important playoff asset too. I'd much rather have Lindell out of the two, even if they had similar contracts.

I've read that Lindell isn't good at getting the puck out of the defensive zone, as good as he may be at blocking shots, getting position on opponents, and being able to win puck battles. Didn't know he played the power play though

He plays pretty much every role now, but mostly PK and defensive roles. But yeah his puckmoving needs work

I see, and he has a NMC too

Started this year

Ouch

chiasson has done nothing 5v5. he's only a PP specialist

I've seen him do okay in a bottom six role. He doesn't have foot speed, but his hockey sense is sound

wish we had set lines for the forward lines so we could see the players true strengths really shine

Severson, to make it simple, is WAY out of Myers' league. Myers is overpaid, terrible defensively, and makes terrible decisions pinching in the offensive zone or pressuring in the neutral zone. He's a pylon out there. Heck, Canucks have to pay to get rid of him, not get better players back. Start with a 2nd to get rid of his contract.

Nobody wants Chiasson. He's average, but he's not worth a roster spot just to play on the power play. I personally, would reward a guy in the AHL such as Lockwood or Dries to suit up instead.

OEL's contract is terrible. Yes, he's decent, but Dallas is not willing to give up a Top 4 Dman who is arguably on a similar level to OEL for him. A 2nd and a 4th is no where near enough to take on his contract.

Myers is NOT a pylon, people who say that are being ignorant. I said he has defensive warts, but he still plays penalty kill and actually does a decent job at it. If Vancouver truly had to pay to get rid of him, they would have tried to do so already. Severson however is not the defenseman he used to be, he only has 1 goal and 5 points in 19 games this season, which is not great for an offensive D-man, not to mention I keep seeing him placed on the 3rd pair in depth charts

If Lindell were to waive his NMC, I think he would likely be seen as a negative asset as well. A 2nd and a 4th wouldn't be enough of a sweetener to take on OEL's contract alone, but Lindell and Hakanpaa are coming back the other way

1. Severson is a two-way defensemen, not an offensive defensemen
2. He is still playing top 4 minutes, he's just not getting as much offensive opportunities with Hamilton on the team
3. Severson is still significantly better than Myers

You are not getting rid of OEL, dude. Don't know how many times I need to say this.





Nope, that one is also terrible.

Well, everyone’s telling you now! If Myers was actually good on the PK, the Canucks PK would be better. (last in the league lol) Here’s something to put this into perspective. Devils would probably only trade Severson in a package for Boeser, Horvat, etc. Devils are short on RHD like the Canucks, and they just get worse with Myers.

I don’t think you know the value on that Dallas trade. Sure, Dallas may not be good right now and might need a retool, but acquiring OEL is definitely not worth giving up Lindell and Hakanpaa

Yeah nvm u right now that I look at it

You can't put the blame for a lousy PK on just one player, poor special teams stem from inefficient roster construction in general, not just a single defenseman. I've been watching the team all season, Myers isn't the soul problem, it's a personnel issue team wide. In Vancouver's case, they don't have a lot of good penalty killing forwards, but their defenseman are adequate option for the PK. I knew you were going to bring this up in your argument. Does Severson even kill penalties? Boeser and Horvat are both far more valuable than Severson by the way, so they wouldn't be going to Jersey in a one for one swap for him. Trust me, if you actually bother to watch Myers play, I think your opinion will change. Don't just go off of the gossip of other people because it could inaccurate

The Stars might be willing to take on OEL to acquire some futures while dumping Lindell and Hakanpaa, I don't think it's as obvious of a write off as you guys think



I'm sorry, but to me, you are sounding a little sensitive, and at least I'm not trading OEL to the Blues, so I don't see why I should put any stock into your opinion. Scandella has severely underperformed for St. Louis the last year and a bit, he's playing at a replacement level rate. Never bet against teams swapping expendable assets

Dude I’m a Canucks fan… I watch him play every single game. All he does is stand in front of the goalie and can’t even take the stick. They only thing he’s decent at is carrying the puck but he’s not even the primary puck mover on his pair now…OEL is.

Lindell and Hakanpaa are NOT negative value. OEL is. A 2nd and a 4th is nowhere near enough to take on his contract, especially in a flat cap world. Dallas has enough bad contracts already. Lindell is a great 2nd pair Dman for his contract and Hakanpaa is a great bottom pair Dman for his contract. OEL is paid like a number one defenceman but he’s not close to that.

So to sum it all up, numerous comments on this thread told you multiple views (from the Canucks, Stars, and Devils perspective). Can you please just listen to everyone instead of overvaluing our players and arguing that their actually good when they’re not.