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BB and Miller

Created by: Capitalfail67
Team: 2021-22 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 3, 2021
Published: Dec. 3, 2021
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Trade Eller in the offseason... Schultz contract comes off the books that will free up 7.5m

Lets assume BB gets a 2m raise ..that leaves some room to sign VV and Sammy
Trades
1.
WSH
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. Miller, J.T. ($2,125,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Lappy + 1st + Geisser = BB
Mantha + Sprong + 2nd = Miller 50%

the 2nd becomes a 1st if Capitals make it to the ECF
VAN
  1. Geisser, Tobias
  2. Lapierre, Hendrix
  3. Mantha, Anthony
  4. Sprong, Daniel
  5. 2022 1st round pick (WSH)
  6. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
2.
WSH
ARI
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. Kempný, Michal
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (WPG)
  4. 2023 4th round pick (WSH)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$72,690,428$472,927$265,000$8,809,572
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,166,667$5,166,667
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$9,200,000$9,200,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$2,415,000$2,415,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW, LW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$791,667$791,667 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$716,667$716,667
G
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:30 p.m.
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Send Irwin down and this would be a cup winner. Nice job
Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:31 p.m.
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Hang on to sprong a little longer
Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:32 p.m.
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Hey, just letting you know that you're a teeeeeensy bit over the cap there. I heard Gary Bettman just called in his salary cap enforcement agents, stay safe out there.
Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Roysboy72
Hey, just letting you know that you're a teeeeeensy bit over the cap there. I heard Gary Bettman just called in his salary cap enforcement agents, stay safe out there.

We can send Irwin down
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
We can send Irwin down

Maybe you should tell that to deputy commissioner and chief legal officer Bill Daly...
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Roysboy72
Maybe you should tell that to deputy commissioner and chief legal officer Bill Daly...

Law and order theme music
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:45 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Hang on to sprong a little longer


Quoting: Roysboy72
Hey, just letting you know that you're a teeeeeensy bit over the cap there. I heard Gary Bettman just called in his salary cap enforcement agents, stay safe out there.


Backstrom has been on LTIR the entire year therefore capitals should have roughly 3-4m in cap relief
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Hang on to sprong a little longer


No need for Sprong plus his salary raise will likely become an issue when trying to extend Sammy and VV. I like Protas better.
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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No need for Sprong plus his salary raise will likely become an issue when trying to extend Sammy and VV. I like Protas better.
I want the best for sprong that is all. He’s my favorite player
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
I want the best for sprong that is all. He’s my favorite player


Quoting: capsfan2121
I want the best for sprong that is all. He’s my favorite player


He will likely get a better opportunity in Van since they are unloading Miller and BB in this trade. this trade quickly makes the capitals a powerhouse where all 4 lines can score and teams will likely have to stop stacking talent vs Ovechkin
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
He will likely get a better opportunity in Van since they are unloading Miller and BB in this trade. this trade quickly makes the capitals a powerhouse where all 4 lines can score and teams will likely have to stop stacking talent vs Ovechkin


Honestly we can make it even better if we can get comitos I have bad spelling. Like send denis cho and and picks for half retained just as a rental
Dec. 3, 2021 at 12:59 p.m.
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Again nice job
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Honestly we can make it even better if we can get comitos I have bad spelling. Like send denis cho and and picks for half retained just as a rental


I think the Ducks are a playoff team so idk if they arent selling
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 1:10 p.m.
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to get under cap have VAN retain $2 150 000
Dec. 3, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
to get under cap have VAN retain $2 150 000


We can send someone down
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 1:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
to get under cap have VAN retain $2 150 000


Quoting: capsfan2121
We can send someone down


we could just have them retain another $500 on the Miller deal
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 1:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
we could just have them retain another $500 on the Miller deal


yeah but like 2125500 is a weird number
i prefer 2150000 but thats just me
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.
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Canucks dont really want mantha, at 27 hes too old for what they're doing, he isnt worth what he was traded for last TDL, he's worth a 1st, and a 3rd but thats it, got fleeced by steevy y
Dec. 3, 2021 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
yeah but like 2125500 is a weird number
i prefer 2150000 but thats just me


i agree
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
Canucks dont really want mantha, at 27 hes too old for what they're doing, he isnt worth what he was traded for last TDL, he's worth a 1st, and a 3rd but thats it, got fleeced by steevy y


Depends on how you view Vrana. He was a below average defensive player that grossly under preformed in the playoffs. Vrana was worth maybe a 1st + 3rd when we traded him. The year prior to the trade Mantha had 38p in 43 games...thats a 70+ point pace. His CF% / FF% are impressive. Not really sure how you would explain Capitals getting fleeced besides you being extremely high on Vrana who is currently hurt which doesn't help anyone? Vrana + 2nd for Mantha isnt terrible. People tend to for get they paid the wings a 1st to eat 3 years of Panik at 2.75 million.

Vrana last 15 playoff games 0p -8 ...
Dec. 3, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Depends on how you view Vrana. He was a below average defensive player that grossly under preformed in the playoffs. Vrana was worth maybe a 1st + 3rd when we traded him. The year prior to the trade Mantha had 38p in 43 games...thats a 70+ point pace. His CF% / FF% are impressive. Not really sure how you would explain Capitals getting fleeced besides you being extremely high on Vrana who is currently hurt which doesn't help anyone? Vrana + 2nd for Mantha isnt terrible. People tend to for get they paid the wings a 1st to eat 3 years of Panik at 2.75 million.

Vrana last 15 playoff games 0p -8 ...


I dont doubt that it was nice to get Vrana off your hands, but to lose him, a 1st, and a 2nd for mantha is a big price to pay
Dec. 3, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
I dont doubt that it was nice to get Vrana off your hands, but to lose him, a 1st, and a 2nd for mantha is a big price to pay


dont forget they were able to dump Panik cap hit of 2.75m x years. Cap space in a dead cap era is worth its weight in gold. Imo Mantha will be a 50-60 point guy once Backstrom get back. As far a Van not needing him depends on what their goal is for the future. Quick rebuild they could rasie his value by loading him with pp time and playing him with EP... trade him for 1st + great prospect at the deadline or use him for what he is
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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un biased value is probably close.

but Qty can't equal quality.
Miller.... VAN's best performing player, leadership on the team.... the return is not interesting to VAN ergo... decline
Boeser... having a down year so demand is not as high, but high upside, ownership and fanbase love him..... return is not interesting so.... decline.

it's like EA NHL "consult our trade block"
Top 4 RHD
Top 6 D
or a Top 6 F swap but trade value has to be the same 1 for 1
Dec. 3, 2021 at 3:31 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 3, 2021 at 3:36 p.m.
Quoting: canucks_Fan_53
un biased value is probably close.

but Qty can't equal quality.
Miller.... VAN's best performing player, leadership on the team.... the return is not interesting to VAN ergo... decline
Boeser... having a down year so demand is not as high, but high upside, ownership and fanbase love him..... return is not interesting so.... decline.

it's like EA NHL "consult our trade block"
Top 4 RHD
Top 6 D
or a Top 6 F swap but trade value has to be the same 1 for 1


Quality? lol Miller is worth a 1st + prospect.. roughly. Mantha is worth a 1st + 3rd. Sprong a middle 6 NHL ready player + 2nd.

Boeser is getting back Lappy ( high end center prospect) 1st and a mid level LHD prospect. basically 2 1st round picks for a guy having a terrible year...

every player / pick is "quality" besides Geisser lol

Edit

Miller has 23p in 24gp 10 on the powerplay... his CF%/FF% are great his xgf% isnt great but long story short he's a great player but he's unlikely to play on Wsh powerplay so he will be relying on 5v5 points. His numbers are really solid but you make him seem like he has a extremely high price point...
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
dont forget they were able to dump Panik cap hit of 2.75m x years. Cap space in a dead cap era is worth its weight in gold. Imo Mantha will be a 50-60 point guy once Backstrom get back. As far a Van not needing him depends on what their goal is for the future. Quick rebuild they could rasie his value by loading him with pp time and playing him with EP... trade him for 1st + great prospect at the deadline or use him for what he is


thats fair enough, but I think that the canucks will have to do a longer, 3 year rebuild
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