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BECAUSE IM SICK OF THIS TEAM

Created by: Roscoe
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2021
Published: Dec. 3, 2021
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Yes I know all the trades suck

should've kept Hextall, he was on the right track
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2022 6th round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. MacEwen, Zack
Additional Details:
TDL
2.
PHI
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
3.
PHI
  1. 2023 7th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Thompson, Nate
Additional Details:
TDL
4.
5.
6.
7.
PHI
  1. 2023 7th round pick (ARI)
8.
PHI
MIN
  1. Atkinson, Cam
  2. Giroux, Claude ($4,000,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$57,084,832$0$3,395,000$24,415,168
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,675,000$3,675,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$747,500$747,500 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
LW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$863,333$863,333
C
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD, LW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 3, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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Ristolainen wouldn't even play most likely on Calgary. I have no interest in him personally
Dec. 3, 2021 at 4:30 p.m.
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Pelletier isn't available for anything less than a 1C, let us know if you are trading Couts and we can talk
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Pelletier isn't available for anything less than a 1C, let us know if you are trading Couts and we can talk


Which they are in this scenario
Dec. 3, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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if you are sick of it, why would the Avs trade a big portion of their team for yours
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.
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Ottawa would accept if you take Matt Murray as well.
Dec. 3, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Which they are in this scenario


Well yes but that ask is absurd
Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Pelletier isn't available for anything less than a 1C, let us know if you are trading Couts and we can talk


If Pelletier is worth a 1C then Eklund is worth Connor McDavid.
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_bettman
If Pelletier is worth a 1C then Eklund is worth Connor McDavid.


I'm not sure there's a fanbase that overrates their players and prospects more on here than Flames fans. Like, Pelletier's scouting reports doesn't even project him to become a 1C, but he's worth an already established one apparently lol
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:22 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_bettman
If Pelletier is worth a 1C then Eklund is worth Connor McDavid.


How did your misunderstand what I said this bad? Who said anything about value?
Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.
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I'd give a 7th for Thompson before I'd give a 1st for Chiarot for the OIlers.
Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.
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Quoting: DH28Hockey
I'm not sure there's a fanbase that overrates their players and prospects more on here than Flames fans. Like, Pelletier's scouting reports doesn't even project him to become a 1C, but he's worth an already established one apparently lol


Who said he is worth an established 1C? He's also not a center so of course he's not projected to be a 1C
Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Who said he is worth an established 1C? He's also not a center so of course he's not projected to be a 1C


I remember during his draft year he was listed at both wing and center, didn't really know he's committed to wing at this point. The first comment in this thread though is "he isn't available for anything short of a 1C".
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Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Who said he is worth an established 1C? He's also not a center so of course he's not projected to be a 1C


THen maybe be a little more specific. The way you said it was vague.
Dec. 3, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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Quoting: DH28Hockey
I remember during his draft year he was listed at both wing and center, didn't really know he's committed to wing at this point. The first comment in this thread though is "he isn't available for anything short of a 1C".


He playes primarily wing but takes the occasional face off on the PK.

"He isn't available" =/= "he is worth."

Pelletier is dominating the AHL right now as a rookie and Calgary needs his ELC for next year, so unless an upgrade for Monahan is coming in Pelletier simply is off the table in any trade
Dec. 3, 2021 at 6:00 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_bettman
THen maybe be a little more specific. The way you said it was vague.


No it wasnt, I said he is unavailable. You just failed to comprehend that
Dec. 3, 2021 at 6:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No it wasnt, I said he is unavailable. You just failed to comprehend that


wow. good day.
Dec. 3, 2021 at 6:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No it wasnt, I said he is unavailable. You just failed to comprehend that


"Pelletier isn't available for anything less than a 1C"

This is what you said derp face. Can you comprehend it?
Dec. 3, 2021 at 6:12 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_bettman
"Pelletier isn't available for anything less than a 1C"

This is what you said derp face. Can you comprehend it?


"He isn't available, but if a team is selling a 1C Flames can make an exception on their #1 prospect." No where in there does it say he is worth a 1C

I get it, the English language is hard, especially if you are ESL
Dec. 3, 2021 at 6:19 p.m.
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Why does COL do that?
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Dec. 4, 2021 at 7:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Well yes but that ask is absurd


You have to understand this is a trade deadline deal. Calgary overpays because that's what teams who think they have a shot at the cup do. Brassard has been very servicable thus far and Risto is that tough defenseman teams need in the playoffs. Risto as an insurance policy heading into the playoffs is worth what Calgary paid to get him. In fact Flyers could probably get more
Dec. 4, 2021 at 7:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
Why does COL do that?


Because they want to win the cup
Dec. 4, 2021 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Roscoe
Because they want to win the cup


And how does that happen here? Kadri is 4th in league scoring, Newhook are premium prospects and Girard is a top pairing caliber dman. How does this trade help them at all? Clue it doesn’t. It’s a screw job trade that NOT one GM in the NHL would make if they were COL. Literally Being generous Sanheim and Girard is wash, and you somehow think Couturier and Laighton net Kadri Newhook AND Barron. Put the pipe down.
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Dec. 4, 2021 at 10:31 p.m.
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I'm sure the Avs could find deals with the Flyers but nope.....that's not even remotely close.
Dec. 9, 2021 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
And how does that happen here? Kadri is 4th in league scoring, Newhook are premium prospects and Girard is a top pairing caliber dman. How does this trade help them at all? Clue it doesn’t. It’s a screw job trade that NOT one GM in the NHL would make if they were COL. Literally Being generous Sanheim and Girard is wash, and you somehow think Couturier and Laighton net Kadri Newhook AND Barron. Put the pipe down.


Ok genius so this is how things work. Kadri can't be trusted to not put his team in some kind of hole because of his stupidity like he did last year and in other years with the Leafs. Couts is a former Selke winner who with the right team around him would be a better asset in the playoffs than Kadri. Newhook is the price you pay to get Couts because Newhook isn't winning you a cup but Couts is. So to sum up yes Colorado gives up some of their future to win now. Forget about Girard and Sanheim that doesn't have to be a part of the deal, I just did it because it saves Colorado a million dollars and I think Sanheim is better anyway. Laughton gives you the same penalty killing and energy that Kadri gives you albeit without the scoring but is almost two million cheaper and has term left where Kadri doesn't.
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