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Hagel

Created by: Komisarek
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 4, 2021
Published: Dec. 4, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Hagel, Brandon
  2. Entwistle, Mackenzie
  3. 2022 6th round pick (CBJ)
CHI
  1. Ritchie, Nick
  2. Amirov, Rodion
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
Buried
  • Pierre Engvall: $125,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
TOR
TOR
CBJ
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,158,116$0$400,000$341,884
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Hagel, Brandon
$1,500,000
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2

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Dec. 4, 2021 at 12:19 p.m.
#1
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the leafs arnt giving up Amirov or anything close to that to get a bottom 6er
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Dec. 4, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.
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In Pridham we trust
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
the leafs arnt giving up Amirov or anything close to that to get a bottom 6er


90% of Leaf trade proposals lately involve one or both of Amirov or Robertson, guess it makes a bit of sense as 90% of fans never consider tomorrow let alone next year, or the year after.

But I can't be the only that is looking forward to these 3 being either on ELCs or bridge deals (Robertson, Amirov, Knies) over the next few years while Leafs are in their contending window.

A future LW group of those three plus Bunting sounds pretty good to me.
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Dec. 4, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
#3
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I know yall think highly of your players. But consider this, Hawks decline for sure. You aren't getting Hagel for that. I don't care that Amirov was 15th overall 2 years ago.
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Dec. 4, 2021 at 1:26 p.m.
#4
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Quoting: Garak
I know yall think highly of your players. But consider this, Hawks decline for sure. You aren't getting Hagel for that. I don't care that Amirov was 15th overall 2 years ago.


the first part of this sentence just makes the last part all the funnier.
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Dec. 4, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.
#5
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Hagel is a driving force on this team, wont be trading him unless the offer is ridiculous. Tacking on Ritchie doesnt exactly help the value here either.
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Dec. 4, 2021 at 1:38 p.m.
#6
Days of our Hawks
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
the leafs arnt giving up Amirov or anything close to that to get a bottom 6er


The guy plays in the top 6 what are you talking about?
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Dec. 4, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.
#7
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Quoting: IconicHawk
The guy plays in the top 6 what are you talking about?


playing in the top 6 and being a top 6 player are two very different things. Ritchie has played in the top 6 this year, do you want him for your top 6? The leafs arnt gonna give up amirov for a guy who is currently a 3rd liner on a team with decent depth because he might maybe could be a 2nd liner some day.
Dec. 4, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
#8
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
playing in the top 6 and being a top 6 player are two very different things. Ritchie has played in the top 6 this year, do you want him for your top 6? The leafs arnt gonna give up amirov for a guy who is currently a 3rd liner on a team with decent depth because he might maybe could be a 2nd liner some day.


I don't think you understand what kind of player Hagel actually is. Amirov, at this point, is a "maybe an NHLer some day" kind of player. If the 2020 draft were done again today, he probably would end up being a 3rd round pick or later.
Dec. 4, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
#9
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Quoting: Garak
I don't think you understand what kind of player Hagel actually is. Amirov, at this point, is a "maybe an NHLer some day" kind of player. If the 2020 draft were done again today, he probably would end up being a 3rd round pick or later.


I know very well the type of player Hagel is, he's a decent young 3rd liner type who is getting a tone of ice time with guys like Kane and Toews this year and Kubalik and DeBrinecat last year.
He's also rocking a near 20% shooting percentage this year, which is in no way shape or form sustainable
And Amirov is, as of this point, a blue chip prospect and if the draft was re-done he'd go more or less where he was taken.
Dec. 4, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.
#10
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
I know very well the type of player Hagel is, he's a decent young 3rd liner type who is getting a tone of ice time with guys like Kane and Toews this year and Kubalik and DeBrinecat last year.
He's also rocking a near 20% shooting percentage this year, which is in no way shape or form sustainable
And Amirov is, as of this point, a blue chip prospect and if the draft was re-done he'd go more or less where he was taken.


k
Dec. 4, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.
#11
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Quoting: Garak
k


mhm
Dec. 4, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
#12
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
mhm


Alright.
Dec. 4, 2021 at 2:22 p.m.
#13
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Quoting: Garak
Alright.


yep
Dec. 4, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
#14
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yep


uhhuh
Dec. 4, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
#15
Days of our Hawks
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
playing in the top 6 and being a top 6 player are two very different things. Ritchie has played in the top 6 this year, do you want him for your top 6? The leafs arnt gonna give up amirov for a guy who is currently a 3rd liner on a team with decent depth because he might maybe could be a 2nd liner some day.


Ritchie is because you have no one better to put there besides Micheal Bunting

In the case of Hagel we have several players who can play in his role but he just plays best their
Dec. 4, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.
#16
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yep


So, I already had a pretty good list going of notable players from the last few drafts. But I just took some time to go through that list again and single out all of the players that were drafted in 2020, then I got rid of all the players that were already drafted ahead of him because most of those were pretty correct in being drafted before Amirov. Then I sorted them by stats and watched whatever highlights I could find along with my knowledge from already having watched a bunch of games in all the different hockey leagues this year.

Honestly I thought I was exaggerating quite a bit with my comment about re-doing that draft, just trying to get a rise out of you. But knowing what we know now about all the players from that draft, I found 38 kids I would've picked before him. That isn't to say that he doesn't have the tools to eventually develop into a solid NHLer. But 38 kids that are acclimating to pro level play faster, more skilled at this point in their careers, and are physically more ready for the NHL, all that were drafted AFTER Amirov.
Dec. 4, 2021 at 7:05 p.m.
#17
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I wouldn't take this just for Hagel alone. He is almost in the same category as Dach and the Cat when it comes to trade status. Yes that means he is close to untouchable and would require a substantial overpay to get him away. This is not it.
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