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The 13th forward

Created by: Knuckl3s
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 6, 2021
Published: Dec. 6, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
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Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$7,000,000
2$1,000,000
1$900,000
2$900,000
2$800,000
1$1,500,000
1$787,500
2$775,000
3$875,000
2$775,000
2$2,550,000
5$1,450,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Ibn Fahlan, Ahmed
1$750,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Amadio, Michael$900,000No Compensation
Anderson-Dolan, Jaret$900,000No Compensation
Angello, Anthony$800,000No Compensation
Bellows, Kieffer$800,000No Compensation
Chmelevski, Alexander$800,000No Compensation
Cates, Jackson$800,000No Compensation
Ruotsalainen, Arttu$800,000No Compensation
Strome, Matthew$750,000No Compensation
Booth, Callum$850,000No Compensation
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
  2. Greenway, Jordan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 7th round pick (MIN)
2.
VAN
  1. Konecny, Travis
  2. Laughton, Scott
  3. 2022 5th round pick (PHI)
  4. 2023 4th round pick (PHI)
3.
VAN
  1. 2022 6th round pick (DET)
TBL
  1. Poolman, Tucker
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (WPG)
4.
VAN
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (TBL)
5.
DET
  1. Myers, Tyler ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
6.
VAN
  1. Hakanpää, Jani
  2. 2023 5th round pick (DAL)
7.
VAN
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
OTT
  1. 2022 6th round pick (VAN)
8.
VAN
  1. Rubins, Kristians [RFA Rights]
  2. Scott, Ian [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 5th round pick (TOR)
9.
VAN
  1. Benson, Tyler [RFA Rights]
  2. Marody, Cooper [RFA Rights]
EDM
  1. Rempal, Sheldon [RFA Rights]
  2. Stephens, Devante [RFA Rights]
10.
CHI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. 2023 4th round pick (PHI)
  3. 2023 5th round pick (TOR)
11.
VAN
    Waivers pickup
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    2023
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    Logo of the DAL
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    Logo of the MIN
    2024
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    Logo of the VAN
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$81,501,667$1,250,000$1,150,000$998,333

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $7,350,000$7,350,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $4,950,000$4,950,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $4,125,000$4,125,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $975,000$975,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    $775,000$775,000
    C, RW
    UFA
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $7,850,000$7,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $4,400,000$4,400,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $7,260,000$7,260,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Dallas Stars
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    $2,550,000$2,550,000
    RD
    UFA
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $850,000$850,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Ibn Fahlan, Ahmed
    $750,000$750,000
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    $900,000$900,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    $875,000$875,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $850,000$850,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $850,000$850,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    $850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    $850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $1,000,000$1,000,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Dec. 6, 2021 at 7:49 p.m.
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    Brock boeser and a bunch of nothing doesn't get you fiala, much less greenway, . Minnesota will keep both players and Vancouver can keep boeser! This Boeser being from MIN isn't something any wild fans care about. fiala is better than boeser along with cheap and not injury prone
    Dec. 6, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
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    We are not spending assets to dump cap.

    Because we are not up against the cap.

    Try again.
    Dec. 6, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.
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    Don’t want Pearson.
    Dec. 6, 2021 at 9:40 p.m.
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    What the hell is that Detroit trade? Only makes sense if Hronek is in a package for EP.
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    Dec. 6, 2021 at 9:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: CAPDumba
    Brock boeser and a bunch of nothing doesn't get you fiala, much less greenway, . Minnesota will keep both players and Vancouver can keep boeser! This Boeser being from MIN isn't something any wild fans care about. fiala is better than boeser along with cheap and not injury prone


    If you think Fiala is better than Boeser, there are those who will disagree just so you know
    Dec. 6, 2021 at 9:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: dopplsan
    Don’t want Pearson.


    Are you sure you speak for all Jacket's fans?
    Dec. 6, 2021 at 9:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    We are not spending assets to dump cap.

    Because we are not up against the cap.

    Try again.


    Have you ever considered that maybe cap gymnastics are multi-dimensional. Factors of individual player-fit and systemic fit
    Dec. 6, 2021 at 10:05 p.m.
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    Hronek deal is bad. It would take the 2nd just to dump Myers and that contract, let alone getting an asset.

    Hronek is young playing well and is coveted because he is a good RHD.

    Not even close
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 1:27 a.m.
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    Hronek deal is bad. It would take the 2nd just to dump Myers and that contract, let alone getting an asset.

    Hronek is young playing well and is coveted because he is a good RHD.

    Not even close


    No chance Yzerman take Myers for only a 2nd even at 4M
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 2:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: Drw4209
    No chance Yzerman take Myers for only a 2nd even at 4M


    Quoting: mikearky
    Hronek deal is bad. It would take the 2nd just to dump Myers and that contract, let alone getting an asset.

    Hronek is young playing well and is coveted because he is a good RHD.

    Not even close


    Myers is a better defenseman than everyone thinks he is, his contract isn't as outrageous as anyone thinks
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 5:29 a.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    If you think Fiala is better than Boeser, there are those who will disagree just so you know


    Only Canucks fans think so. Wild fans will agree with me. You also didn't read the other part
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
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    Nah.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    Are you sure you speak for all Jacket's fans?


    I’m welcome to rebuttals from “Jacket’s fans.”
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    Have you ever considered that maybe cap gymnastics are multi-dimensional. Factors of individual player-fit and systemic fit


    Ottawa is projected to have 29.8 million in cap space for next season.

    There's nothing multi-dimensional about it.

    No cap gymnastics in play here for Ottawa.
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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    Nah.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    Myers is a better defenseman than everyone thinks he is, his contract isn't as outrageous as anyone thinks


    Please make the case for Myers at 2x$6M.
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: CAPDumba
    Only Canucks fans think so. Wild fans will agree with me. You also didn't read the other part


    Boeser's injury history isn't that concerning, he's always managed to come back from them thus far, and I'd like to know what non-Canucks and non-Wild fans think, because both of those parties have obvious reasons for feeling biased
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 2:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Ottawa is projected to have 29.8 million in cap space for next season.

    There's nothing multi-dimensional about it.

    No cap gymnastics in play here for Ottawa.


    See that continues to be the case if Dorion is out at the end of this season
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: dopplsan
    Please make the case for Myers at 2x$6M.


    You got it. So here is the thing, the focal point or linchpin when it comes to Myers's game is the fact that he is a big tall defenseman, but he is not primarily a defensive defenseman considering his size. I think this unique dichotomy about him as a player is really off-putting to people, since being a defenseman is normally regarded as a role suited for a bigger-body. What Myers does do well is carrying the puck, entering the offensive zone, and holding the blueline in the O-zone, which is still a more sizeable tool set than you can get from your typical average defenseman. Myers certainly has his warts defensively, sometimes he tries to make aggressive pinches and gets caught, but he is by no means a defensive liability the way guys like Tyson Barrie, Tony DeAngelo, and Shayne Gostisbehere are. He can still block shots and win puck battles in the defensive zone

    I know last year was rough for Myers, but he was actually pretty good in his first season with Vancouver and he actually has had some noticeably good games this season, in fact, he's done really well playing alongside Oliver Ekman-Larsson, who'd of thought eh? Myers usually manages to put up respectable offensive numbers, and seeing how he's playing with OEL, it turns out he can indeed play a matchup role as long as he doesn't have to be the primary defensive conscience on a pairing, because he obviously isn't equipped to carry the defensive load on a pairing, especially in a top 4 spot

    I think all in all, Myers is an above average offensive defenseman who can play on any pairing as long as his partner is good defensively. Yeah, his contract maybe looks a bit rich for what he brings, but at least he is not being paid as much as most of the ELITE offensive D-man in the league, and that is why I don't view Myers as a negative asset. Thank you
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    You got it. So here is the thing, the focal point or linchpin when it comes to Myers's game is the fact that he is a big tall defenseman, but he is not primarily a defensive defenseman considering his size. I think this unique dichotomy about him as a player is really off-putting to people, since being a defenseman is normally regarded as a role suited for a bigger-body. What Myers does do well is carrying the puck, entering the offensive zone, and holding the blueline in the O-zone, which is still a more sizeable tool set than you can get from your typical average defenseman. Myers certainly has his warts defensively, sometimes he tries to make aggressive pinches and gets caught, but he is by no means a defensive liability the way guys like Tyson Barrie, Tony DeAngelo, and Shayne Gostisbehere are. He can still block shots and win puck battles in the defensive zone

    I know last year was rough for Myers, but he was actually pretty good in his first season with Vancouver and he actually has had some noticeably good games this season, in fact, he's done really well playing alongside Oliver Ekman-Larsson, who'd of thought eh? Myers usually manages to put up respectable offensive numbers, and seeing how he's playing with OEL, it turns out he can indeed play a matchup role as long as he doesn't have to be the primary defensive conscience on a pairing, because he obviously isn't equipped to carry the defensive load on a pairing, especially in a top 4 spot

    I think all in all, Myers is an above average offensive defenseman who can play on any pairing as long as his partner is good defensively. Yeah, his contract maybe looks a bit rich for what he brings, but at least he is not being paid as much as most of the ELITE offensive D-man in the league, and that is why I don't view Myers as a negative asset. Thank you


    I get your eye test angle, but this is still the most recent analytical breakdown I’ve seen of his game: https://mobile.twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1370975710572126208

    And I have a hard time believing in him as an above-average “offensive” D-Man who has an 0-6-6 line in 26 games. That’s an equal point output, and lesser goal output than, say, Micheal Del Zotto, who is getting paid $2M. The past two years have had an equal offensive output from him - 21 points. 0-6-6 are the kinds of numbers that 7th D-Men put up by this point in the season.

    The only market for Myers is really on a bad contract for bad contract deal. And I don’t see DET, flush with cap space for the next several years, as a team to trade Hronek for the sake of cutting costs.
    Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: dopplsan
    I get your eye test angle, but this is still the most recent analytical breakdown I’ve seen of his game: https://mobile.twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1370975710572126208

    And I have a hard time believing in him as an above-average “offensive” D-Man who has an 0-6-6 line in 26 games. That’s an equal point output, and lesser goal output than, say, Micheal Del Zotto, who is getting paid $2M. The past two years have had an equal offensive output from him - 21 points. 0-6-6 are the kinds of numbers that 7th D-Men put up by this point in the season.

    The only market for Myers is really on a bad contract for bad contract deal. And I don’t see DET, flush with cap space for the next several years, as a team to trade Hronek for the sake of cutting costs.


    I don't just look at Myers's offensive output, that's certainly part of it, but certainly not the whole picture. Myers doesn't get powerplay time, although he is more than capable of playing on a 2nd unit, but if you look at his production over his first two seasons with Vancouver, it's much higher than 7th/8th caliber level, and as for Del Zotto, he's on a weaker team getting more opportunity. Myers would be getting scratched if he was as bad as people say he is, but he isn't. He hasn't even been put on waivers, so we can't say for sure that he would clear either
    Dec. 8, 2021 at 11:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    Are you sure you speak for all Jacket's fans?


    Quoting: dopplsan
    I’m welcome to rebuttals from “Jacket’s fans.”


    another Jackets fan here: Yeah, Doppl's right, Pearson isn't someone we need. Wingers are not a need right now (we have too many that want NHL playing time), and if his stats are anything to go by, he's pretty overpaid. He's got a full NTC for this year, and i'm not sure if he'd waive for Columbus.
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    Dec. 8, 2021 at 5:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bobcat205
    another Jackets fan here: Yeah, Doppl's right, Pearson isn't someone we need. Wingers are not a need right now (we have too many that want NHL playing time), and if his stats are anything to go by, he's pretty overpaid. He's got a full NTC for this year, and i'm not sure if he'd waive for Columbus.


    I don't think Pearson is overpaid, he's a very capable 30-40 point player
     
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