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Time to tear it down

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Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 7, 2021
Published: Dec. 7, 2021
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MTL
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (TBL)
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MTL
  1. 2023 7th round pick (FLA)
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MTL
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$63,774,227$597,561$2,325,000$17,725,773
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
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UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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UFA - 6
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$3,675,000$3,675,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$761,250$761,250
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 5
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Dec. 7, 2021 at 10:44 a.m.
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just an insulting girard trade attempt. a bad contract in Armia and a goalie they dont want or need
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 10:45 a.m.
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Oilers fans are going to hate that.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 10:48 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
just an insulting girard trade attempt. a bad contract in Armia and a goalie they dont want or need


they absolutely need a goalie. they aren't going to win 7-5 in the playoffs and Darcy has no track record of good health.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 10:51 a.m.
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they absolutely need a goalie. they aren't going to win 7-5 in the playoffs and Darcy has no track record of good health.


they were playing their 4th string AHL rookie goalie
Kuemper is ready to return and Francouz is on a conditioning stint in the AHL, just posting an AHL

Allen has been bad this year, they arent trading girard for a subpar 3rd goalie on their roster
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 10:54 a.m.
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Yeah that is the worst girard trade yet omg

and omg edmontons cap situation is going to be terrible if we take on any part of price please no we don't want him just because some analyst said he could potentially be a good fit doesn't mean that he is(Also there is no universe where hollaway is moved the kid is a stud)
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:01 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Allen has been bad this year, they arent trading girard for a subpar 3rd goalie on their roster


Does this trade make any sense for Colorado? No
But saying Allen has been bad is taking shortcuts. He's been up to his standards - a top-tier backup goaltender. He's just overwhelmed in a starter role. Before his injury, he has the most games played among goaltenders.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:11 a.m.. Reason: T
Thanks for the laugh, but no.

Everyone of those trades is horribly lopsided in Habs favor.

You would need to add a 1st going to Avs, take out Holloway on EDM trade, take out 1st in Boston trade. Add a 2nd going to NYR.

They all still decline, but at least they would be fair offers,
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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TB doesn't have the cap space. He isn't really an upgrade either so no thanks!
Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Does this trade make any sense for Colorado? No
But saying Allen has been bad is taking shortcuts. He's been up to his standards - a top-tier backup goaltender. He's just overwhelmed in a starter role. Before his injury, he has the most games played among goaltenders.


counter point is the OPs argument about Kuempers injury issues, so if Allen cant handle a starting load, how is he insurance for Kuemper.
Unless a goalie is out for the season, kuemper missing 3 games is making a mountain out of mole hile and trying to shoe horn Allen into a trade making it sound like a desperate need for the avs

If it was Allen for Fracnouz thats a conversation, but avs taking on montreal goalies to be their 1A or 1B starter is just exhausting on this site, just abandons all logic
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
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None of these are close, guy.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
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The usual futile "tear it down post". Thinking other teams want big long term non value cap hits and/or overestimating the value the Habs players.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
just an insulting girard trade attempt. a bad contract in Armia and a goalie they dont want or need


Quoting: coga16
counter point is the OPs argument about Kuempers injury issues, so if Allen cant handle a starting load, how is he insurance for Kuemper.
Unless a goalie is out for the season, kuemper missing 3 games is making a mountain out of mole hile and trying to shoe horn Allen into a trade making it sound like a desperate need for the avs

If it was Allen for Fracnouz thats a conversation, but avs taking on montreal goalies to be their 1A or 1B starter is just exhausting on this site, just abandons all logic


jury is still out on the goalie. allen has been better than kuemper, jojo and annunen this season. it's a wait and see on allen
Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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I'm a habs fan but man this is downright bad bad bad
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:36 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
they were playing their 4th string AHL rookie goalie
Kuemper is ready to return and Francouz is on a conditioning stint in the AHL, just posting an AHL

Allen has been bad this year, they arent trading girard for a subpar 3rd goalie on their roster


its an insultingly bad trade for COL but in all fairness Allen hasn't been bad, he has one of the worst d cores in the league in front of him. he's been solid but horrible offer regardless
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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they absolutely need a goalie. they aren't going to win 7-5 in the playoffs and Darcy has no track record of good health.


Even if that were the case why would they accept a trade that they get ass raped? Tell me how a Girard, young puck moving top pairing quality dman locked up for his entire prime is worth a 31 yr old back up and a 3rd liner. It’s utter nonsense.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Marshallchapman9
its an insultingly bad trade for COL but in all fairness Allen hasn't been bad, he has one of the worst d cores in the league in front of him. he's been solid but horrible offer regardless


Allen over the past 3-4 years had that 1 strong stretch run that basically saved the blues season, since then hes been pretty mediocre. Allen on the blues wasnt any better, he is what he is, a league average back up. Being on a better team wont change that fact. He was the same on a strong Blues team and Blueline as the Habs,
Dec. 7, 2021 at 11:46 a.m.
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1. That deal is horrible for Boston
2. Boston and montreal don’t trade with each other.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Allen over the past 3-4 years had that 1 strong stretch run that basically saved the blues season, since then hes been pretty mediocre. Allen on the blues wasnt any better, he is what he is, a league average back up. Being on a better team wont change that fact. He was the same on a strong Blues team and Blueline as the Habs,


Quoting: coga16
Allen over the past 3-4 years had that 1 strong stretch run that basically saved the blues season, since then hes been pretty mediocre. Allen on the blues wasnt any better, he is what he is, a league average back up. Being on a better team wont change that fact. He was the same on a strong Blues team and Blueline as the Habs,


Pretty false take on "being on a better team won't change that", IMO but whatever. Grubauer looked pretty good in COL, not so much now. Fleury in Vegas, Andersen (vice versa) in Carolina
Dec. 7, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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Devils need goalies
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The Girard trade is insulting. He is so much better then Armia and Allen. I don't think that the Oilers give up Yamamoto. Even if they get Carey Price in return. Also, your not getting a first with DeBrusk
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Marshallchapman9
Pretty false take on "being on a better team won't change that", IMO but whatever. Grubauer looked pretty good in COL, not so much now. Fleury in Vegas, Andersen (vice versa) in Carolina


This is Allen specific, he legit has the same stats on the blues as the Habs
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