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Toffoli Half Retained

Created by: Campabee
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2021
Published: Dec. 7, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
MTL
NSH
  1. Weber, Shea
Additional Details:
Not a trade just Weber retiring
2.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Habs pick is top 10 protects therefore reverts to Habs
ARI
  1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
3.
MTL
  1. Schneider, Braden
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
Alternatively Lafreniere + 2nd
NYR
  1. Toffoli, Tyler ($2,125,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$70,422,144$597,561$1,957,500$11,077,856
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 2
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$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:33 p.m.
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You MTL fans really are out there.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:34 p.m.
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Big overpay. I like Toffoli, especially retained, but you’re way overvaluing him in this deal.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:40 p.m.
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Quoting: aecliptic
You MTL fans really are out there.


Where else are you going to find a consistent 20+ goal scorer for 2.125 Mil?
Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: villenash
Big overpay. I like Toffoli, especially retained, but you’re way overvaluing him in this deal.


Dont think so, consistent 20+ goal scorer signed 3 years after this one, at just 2.125 Mil cap hit. For 2 late 1sts and a top prospect or an elite prospect + 2nd. Good luck finding a better deal than that.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:47 p.m.
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We are not up to 2 1sts and Schneider.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Where else are you going to find a consistent 20+ goal scorer for 2.125 Mil?


Not in this proposal.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.
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We are not up to 2 1sts and Schneider.


And that is fair cause you could probably get Tarasenko for a similar price with maybe 2 mil retained. I am just saying that trading for a top 6 wing is not cheap when you want him half retained for 3.5 years the price goes up exponentially. Especially when the retention means you get him for less than 3 mil.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.
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Not in this proposal.


Not anywhere!
Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:21 p.m.
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Not anywhere!


Sorry, but even if he were getting league minimum, that's too much for Toffoli. The equivalent of three 1sts for a 29 year old player having a down season? The most I could possibly see MTL getting for Toffoli at max retention right now would be a lottery protected 1st and a B prospect.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:26 p.m.
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Pure nonsense. Drury wouldn't even take the call.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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Dont think so, consistent 20+ goal scorer signed 3 years after this one, at just 2.125 Mil cap hit. For 2 late 1sts and a top prospect or an elite prospect + 2nd. Good luck finding a better deal than that.


Toffoli is all yours, Drury wouldn't even take the call.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:28 p.m.
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Sorry, but even if he were getting league minimum, that's too much for Toffoli. The equivalent of three 1sts for a 29 year old player having a down season? The most I could possibly see MTL getting for Toffoli at max retention right now would be a lottery protected 1st and a B prospect.


Wow obviously you don't follow the Habs, Toffoli is on pace for 19 goals (so 1 goal below his normal range) and 53 points (his 2nd best points total ever). Not sure how you can consider it a "down year" but whatever.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.
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Wow obviously you don't follow the Habs, Toffoli is on pace for 19 goals (so 1 goal below his normal range) and 53 points (his 2nd best points total ever). Not sure how you can consider it a "down year" but whatever.


Five goals in 26 games works out to be a 15-16 goal pace over 82 games. Only his brutal 18-19 season was worse, and now he's going to be on the shelf for multiple weeks.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 4:55 p.m.
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Rangers pass! Big time!!
Dec. 7, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
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You MTL fans really are out there.


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Rangers pass! Big time!!


Quoting: delneggs
Toffoli is all yours, Drury wouldn't even take the call.


Didn't see any of yous chiming in when the Rags fan posted the following ridiculous thread. Don't like the counter offer should chine in when fellow fans post ridiculous trades.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2938979
Dec. 7, 2021 at 5:16 p.m.
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Didn't see any of yous chiming in when the Rags fan posted the following ridiculous thread. Don't like the counter offer should chine in when fellow fans post ridiculous trades.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2938979


Im sorry I dont spend my day monitoring this website.
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Dec. 7, 2021 at 5:20 p.m.
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Im sorry I dont spend my day monitoring this website.


I didn't ask if you did
Dec. 7, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.
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MTL retains its minimum 1st rd pick going to them in the deal. Another team retains and oh here you go is a nice mid round pick.

No GM on the planet is going to basically give up 3 1st rd picks or Lafrienere for Toffoli. Hell they aren’t giving up a 1st AND top prospect for him.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 6:34 p.m.
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MTL retains its minimum 1st rd pick going to them in the deal. Another team retains and oh here you go is a nice mid round pick.

No GM on the planet is going to basically give up 3 1st rd picks or Lafrienere for Toffoli. Hell they aren’t giving up a 1st AND top prospect for him.


And they probably shouldn't but the other side if that is no GM on the planet would trade Toffoli half retained with 3 years remaining for less. Sure they might retain 1 mil but you are not getting him at 2.1 for 3.5 years for peanuts! That was really the point of this all.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 6:37 p.m.
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And they probably shouldn't but the other side if that is no GM on the planet would trade Toffoli half retained with 3 years remaining for less. Sure they might retain 1 mil but you are not getting him at 2.1 for 3.5 years for peanuts! That was really the point of this all.


Nobody is trading 3 1st rd picks for Toffoli regardless of his cap hit, I mean come on his full cap hit is under $5M there is a point of diminishing returns and this hits it. People forget the owners have final say ultimately and those people didn’t get rich paying people to work for their competitors.
Dec. 7, 2021 at 8:05 p.m.
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Didn't see any of yous chiming in when the Rags fan posted the following ridiculous thread. Don't like the counter offer should chine in when fellow fans post ridiculous trades.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2938979


You have to see em to comment.
Dec. 8, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.
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Not really a need to retain on Toffoli as his AAV is already quite reasonnable but if a team would absolutely need retention, they wouldn't pay that price at all.

I'll be honest "Alternatively Lafreniere + 2nd" made me chuckle
Dec. 8, 2021 at 11:17 p.m.
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You MTL fans really are out there.


Quoting: villenash
Big overpay. I like Toffoli, especially retained, but you’re way overvaluing him in this deal.


Quoting: Campabee
Where else are you going to find a consistent 20+ goal scorer for 2.125 Mil?


He expects a return better than eichel got for Toffoli. Why are you even entertaining him.
 
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